u/Chemical-Low209

I think we get it twisted. if I'm giving my opinion on my accord I think people try to hard to make it both sides of the extreme.

it's the guys on the very forum that make it sound like it's the easiest thing in the world but certain black pill guys say it's damn near rocket science.

Now I lean more towards black pill stance. is it rocket engineering level? if argue no but it does take a fuck ton of skill to get good at even consistent even just getting average women so if say you need a 7 or above to consistently have this skill of seduction to make a difference

I don't wanna do the whole.. I'm 100% against cold approach so therefore cold approach is bad thing.

Me personally I think cold approach is a massive waste of time for the overwhelming majority of men but I do understand that it still works but only if a guy is a huge catch.

I think about it is they're starting to become a whole bunch of online dating guru guys that are promoting the idea that the guys would simply have much better success if they just simply just tried or if they just simply made the first moves approaching a girl in public.

They will try to frame it like the guy is losing a major opportunity and they're psyching themselves out when they don't need to because the girl could have been delighted to hear from him. The reality is that's not really the case

Most women at best are going to be slightly flattered but they're not going to be really into you and most guys don't have enough skills at least for most women to be able to get their number. Let alone get them on a date, get them to sleep with them or even get them to be their girlfriend.

The reality is a lot of guys are just not attractive to most women. Approaching it's nowhere near enough to make a difference you have to approach AND be insanely good at it. Approaching will make a difference if most guys who approach were ALSO insanely good at Cold approaching. Guys barely get high success rates and cold approaching

A good success rate for a good cold approacher is somewhere between 20 and 30% so 1 and 5 between 1 and 3.

So imagine the abysmal success rate for most average men?