[META] Can we admit low effort goes both ways here?
Ladies, I see a lot of posts calling out the worst behavior from men on this sub. Unsolicited pics, opening with something NSFW for no reason, completely ignoring what a woman actually says she’s looking for, low effort, disappearing after getting intimate, all of that. And honestly, a lot (if not all) of those complaints are completely fair.
But can we also acknowledge that some women here move the exact same way?
The ghosting. The one word responses and conversations. Saying you want connection, consistency, effort, communication while contributing almost nothing to the conversation yourself. Expecting someone else to carry the interaction while you sit back and decide if they’re entertaining enough.
And maybe the most frustrating part is realizing you were never being taken seriously to begin with. Just a placeholder until something “better” came along. A temporary distraction. Validation. Attention. Someone to fill the boredom for a few days, hours, or one night.
Then there’s the standards conversation. Everyone is allowed to have standards, obviously. But sometimes the expectations listed here eliminate like 95% of the possible pool before a conversation even starts. “Attractive” apparently means you should be somewhere in the running for Sexiest Man Alive and have a compelling explanation for why you haven’t won yet.
Not every man here is looking for a meaningless fling, and not every woman here is genuinely looking for connection either.
There are amazing women on this sub, and I've known a few of them and had rewarding relationships. But this has been my personal experience more often than not. It gets exhausting putting in genuine effort only to realize you were just helping someone pass time.
EDIT: I know that too many women get things said to them that are absolutely disgusting. Whether it's in the initial stages of conversation or when they try to end a conversation. And it's wrong. NO ONE deserves that kind of behavior. It's unfortunate because there are good men on here and it only makes things harder for those of us who do treat women with nothing but respect.
EDIT 2: WOW. Getting the full spectrum from support to bitterness. Yes I have posted quite a lot the last month. But I've also changed and don't post anywhere near as much as I did when I first started. I'm also a lot more patient developing conversations. If that offends some of you ladies then I apologize.