u/jycincal

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Hi all, a while back I wrote here some thoughts about how mutual jo and circle jerks might fulfill different needs we have, how it could be different from the need for romance, and how mutual jo could itch a scratch that is important to help a social creature like humans to survive.

I'm no scientist so I don't want to make statements too specific that are false, but I'm starting to get the impression that there are different kinds of arousal and orgasm for men, with different blends of brain chemicals involved. Romantic sex with that "safe in your arms" feeling is one kind, and the kind of brotherhood some of us feel during mutual jo is something different. Something I'm curious to learn more about (if I can understand any of it) is oxytocin & vasopressin, it seems like they are two different hormones that in different mixtures can lead men to two different kinds of sexual excitement, almost like two different flavors of sexual pleasure. One kind might help us form long term romantic relationships, and the other might help men form tight bonds and find acceptance in their "tribe."

I could be mistaken about all that but if there really is science behind this, I wonder if that would help us accept mutual jo as ok and not threatening to romantic relationships. Like if we know that men biologically have a need for both kinds of sexual arousal and orgasm (romance vs brotherhood bonds), maybe it would help some sides feel less like they are the odd ones out for craving a different but valid kind of sexual release?

Anyway hope it doesn't sound too out there but I was wondering if this tracks for any of you and if you can sense different social needs being satisfied by different sexual outlets. If you prefer mutual jo, do you feel that drive for brotherhood and acceptance and is it something separate from the need for romance and intimacy?

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u/jycincal — 27 days ago