u/DBRE123L

My wife and I had our third session the other night… and it was an odd one. We had done the same scripts the first two sessions - Elman induction, long hallway deepener, Simon says suggestions. I told y’all the second session didn’t work as well as the first. So for the third session (after discussion), we decided to switch it up. I tried the body scanning induction, I still incorporated some elman components afterward - arm drop and fractionation. I then did an elevator deepener. It was intentionally less cooperative on her part - meaning the first couple sessions I would ask her to smile, nod, verbally respond, or count out loud. She said she wasn’t able to get to a trance state during the second session so I decided to eliminate all of those responses. It was very internal and what I thought would happen… happened! She fell right asleep in the middle of the elevator deepener. She starts twitching when she falls asleep - it’s very obvious. And she agreed after session that she was asleep. Here is where it gets interesting.

So, I notice she is asleep. I continue for a while. I just decide, at the end of the elevator deepener, to do the same fractionation we’ve done the past sessions. I said open your eyes on 3 and close your eyes when I say sleep. When I counted to 3, her eyes popped right open. I was so shocked because she was 100% asleep. I didnt think suggestions would work during sleep. And she went right back to sleep. Even after the session she didn’t remember that happening. Not sure what happened there? But it seems like for some reason that is sticking… how do I leverage that in future sessions? Or turn that into a trigger to go back into trance?

She also eventually woke up (not opened her eyes) right before the suggestions and was clearly uncomfortable because she was adjusting and moving (I’ll have to figure that out next session). So none of the suggestions were received at that point. But… once I woke her up, I kind of went back to the Simon says of just giving commands during sex… she was clearly suggestible. She was listening but like literally listening. I went to grab a sex toy and told her to sleep until I got back… and she was not moving. And didn’t until I told her to do something else. I’m just confused. I think we’ve done some things right but I can’t understand what and how to leverage them to help us…

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u/DBRE123L — 25 days ago