u/Ok-Salt3721

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So this idea is all about a brothel company running on wheels in the city of Mumbai named "Raseeli Taxi". The idea is simple. It's all about sex in running taxis. The company recruited many sluts for it.

There are categories of sluts in the "Raseeli Taxi":

1. X-category: Cheap sluts (Includes low-class sluts)

2. Y-category: Medium sluts (Includes middle class college girls, unsatisfied wives etc)

3. Z-category: Rich/High-class sluts (Includes Rich college girls, unsatisfied wives and also some Bollywood actresses)

4. L-category: "Lesbian sluts" (Only available for Female customers)

"Raseeli Taxi" is very popular in whole mumbai. Everyday lacs of men books for different sluts to fuck them in running Taxis. These men are not just cheap or lower men but different professional men working in large MNC companies and big businessmen also book for it.

Some rules of company:

1. "Raseeli Taxi" will work only in nights.

2. There'll different rate chart for different categories of sluts.

3. The taxis will run on different routes of Mumbai for 2 hours on slow speed.

4. Customers have to book through phone only on the provided helpline number.

5. The customer choosen slut will only be provided if she'll be available, otherwise customer have to accept other slut (Though customer don't have to worry as "Raseeli Taxi" only has top class sluts in all categories).

This is the basic idea for the plot. We can modify something if you want. Hit me with different set of scenes and characters please, not just Hi or Hello.

Special kinks: Car fuck, City ride fuck, Roadside fucking.

So this idea is all about a brothel company running on wheels in the city of Mumbai named "Raseeli Taxi". The idea is simple. It's all about sex in running taxis. The company recruited many sluts for it.

There are categories of sluts in the "Raseeli Taxi":

1. X-category: Cheap sluts (Includes low-class sluts)

2. Y-category: Medium sluts (Includes middle class college girls, unsatisfied wives etc)

3. Z-category: Rich/High-class sluts (Includes Rich college girls, unsatisfied wives and also some Bollywood actresses)

4. L-category: "Lesbian sluts" (Only available for Female customers)

"Raseeli Taxi" is very popular in whole mumbai. Everyday lacs of men books for different sluts to fuck them in running Taxis. These men are not just cheap or lower men but different professional men working in large MNC companies and big businessmen also book for it.

Some rules of company:

1. "Raseeli Taxi" will work only in nights.

2. There'll different rate chart for different categories of sluts.

3. The taxis will run on different routes of Mumbai for 2 hours on slow speed.

4. Customers have to book through phone only on the provided helpline number.

5. The customer choosen slut will only be provided if she'll be available, otherwise customer have to accept other slut (Though customer don't have to worry as "Raseeli Taxi" only has top class sluts in all categories).

This is the basic idea for the plot. We can modify something if you want. Hit me with different set of scenes and characters please, not just Hi or Hello.

Special kinks: Car fuck, City ride fuck, Roadside fucking.

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Pooja and Anushka was sitting in college canteen. Pooja was sad and Anushka knows the reason, Pooja's mom died just before some months due to a heart attack. Anushka was consoling her with being happy from inside as she's gonna be Pooja's new Mom, very soon. Pooja's handsome dad was madly in love or we can say madly in lust with Anushka. They both fuck eachother a lot, it was just like they both are made for eachother while having sex despite having big age gap.

Anushka usually visits Pooja's house with reason to help her as she's her best friend. But the actual reason was something else 😉. She also visits Pooja's dad's office to console him, however she can 😉.

The RP is still have to build-up. It should be revolving around the relationship between Anushka and Pooja as mom & daughter rather than just friends. There should be lots of fuck scenes between Anushka and Pooja's dad, Pooja also should listen Anushka's moans and her father's words from their bedroom. Pooja will be very happy to get a new mom and that's also in form of her best friend. She'll call Anushka, mom or mommie etc.

Come to me with different ideas for scenes and how we can make a great RP out of this.

References should be indian actresses.

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So this idea is all about a mature milf who is famous for being a slut for money for any men in a city. She's particularly famous for wearing tight or slightly loose white shirt (and downward whatever you want), it's her peculiarity and she always wear fancy bralette beneath the shirt.

So this is the basic idea for the character i wanna play. Let's make multiple scenes around this, how she fucks with different men in different scene and all. Remember i don't wanna be it soft.

Ref: https://www.reddit.com/r/AsianActresses/s/jger64GiO7

Name: Jayshree

Age: 35

Gender: Female

Pronouns: She/Her

Sexuality: Bisexual

About me: I'm a married woman who's just here to enjoy another side of my life, I'm not into romantic type of things, I'm here to play willing lusty woman

\\\*\\\*Harsher Kinks:\\\*\\\*

\\\*\\\*BDSM Oriented\\\*\\\*

\\- Body marking, spanking, edging, overstimulation, orgasm denial and control, ruining orgasms.

\\- Degradation, humiliation, body writing, ego stripping, brat taming, slave training, pet training, discipline, punishments, impact play, pet and slave play, TPE of various sorts, body worship (giving and receiving), foot play (giving and receiving), sensation play, breath play.

\\- CNC and freeuse, pain, violence and torture, toys and tools of various kinds, low intensity knives play, watersports and piss play.

\\\*\\\*Mind and Body:\\\*\\\* Torture/abuse, mindfucking, mind break, addiction, control in various ways from pleasure control to toilet control, somnophilia.

\\\*\\\*Social:\\\*\\\* Age gap, ageplay, interfaith, interracial, cheating, cuckquean, taking turns on me, gangbang (picky with scenarios), a housewife or bollywood actress turned into pornstar or porn actress.

\\\*\\\*Actions and Body Specifics\\\*\\\* - Face fucking, slapping, choking, spitting, begging, manhandling, breeding, fisting, impregnation, pinning down, chastity, body hair, sweat, musk, wax, ice.

\\\*\\\*Others:\\\*\\\* Look Changing, hair cut (from long to medium), hair colour (pink, blonde, brown etc). Tattoos.

\\\*\\\*Soft Kinks:\\\*\\\*

\\- Intimacy, romance, cuddling, oral and using hands.

\\- Collars, leashes, any accessory/dress play that you want.

\\\*\\\*Limits:\\\*\\\* Forced, non-con, scat, snuff, blood play.

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This idea is all about heavy cuckold and hotwife theme.

There're 3 people living together in a luxurious big flat in Mumbai:

1. A husband (Cuckold)

2. A wife (Hotwife)

3. A handsome Bull (Should be elder than wife, age gap will be appreciated)

They're living together without any complaints. There's a free use relationship between the bull and the wife. Means they do anything in front of husband anywhere, anyhow they want within the flat. They smooch openly, they strip eachother openly, they fuck openly, they kiss openly, they foreplay openly, they bath together openly. They sleep together with open door. They fuck and foreplay while she's working in kitchen.

Now the main part, the husband is only an enjoying silent character here. He fap by watching on listening them.

We also can introduce outdoor scenes like shopping, tripping together etc etc if you want.

Ref: Rashmika Mandanna, Mrunal Thakur, Janhvi Kapoor, Kiara Advani or any we can choose mutually.

Special Note: It also can be interfaith (Mbull-Hwife only)

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This idea is all about heavy cuckold and hotwife theme.

There're 3 people living together in a luxurious big flat in Mumbai:

1. A husband (Cuckold)

2. A wife (Hotwife)

3. A handsome Bull (Should be elder than wife, age gap will be appreciated)

They're living together without any complaints. There's a free use relationship between the bull and the wife. Means they do anything in front of husband anywhere, anyhow they want within the flat. They smooch openly, they strip eachother openly, they fuck openly, they kiss openly, they foreplay openly, they bath together openly. They sleep together with open door. They fuck and foreplay while she's working in kitchen.

Now the main part, the husband is only an enjoying silent character here. He fap by watching on listening them.

We also can introduce outdoor scenes like shopping, tripping together etc etc if you want.

Ref: Rashmika Mandanna, Mrunal Thakur, Janhvi Kapoor, Kiara Advani or any we can choose mutually.

Special Note: It also can be interfaith (Mbull-Hwife only)

This idea is all about heavy cuckold and hotwife theme.

There're 3 people living together in a luxurious big flat in Mumbai:

1. A husband (Cuckold)

2. A wife (Hotwife)

3. A handsome Bull (Should be elder than wife, age gap will be appreciated)

They're living together without any complaints. There's a free use relationship between the bull and the wife. Means they do anything in front of husband anywhere, anyhow they want within the flat. They smooch openly, they strip eachother openly, they fuck openly, they kiss openly, they foreplay openly, they bath together openly. They sleep together with open door. They fuck and foreplay while she's working in kitchen.

Now the main part, the husband is only an enjoying silent character here. He fap by watching on listening them.

We also can introduce outdoor scenes like shopping, tripping together etc etc if you want.

Ref: Rashmika Mandanna, Mrunal Thakur, Janhvi Kapoor, Kiara Advani or any we can choose mutually.

Special Note: It also can be interfaith (Mbull-Hwife only)

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So this idea is all about a mature milf who is famous for being a slut for money for any men in a city. She's particularly famous for wearing tight or slightly loose white shirt (and downward whatever you want), it's her peculiarity and she always wear fancy bralette beneath the shirt.

So this is the basic idea for the character i wanna play. Let's make multiple scenes around this, how she fucks with different men in different scene and all. Remember i don't wanna be it soft.

Ref: https://www.reddit.com/r/AsianActresses/s/jger64GiO7

Name: Jayshree

Age: 35

Gender: Female

Pronouns: She/Her

Sexuality: Bisexual

About me: I'm a married woman who's just here to enjoy another side of my life, I'm not into romantic type of things, I'm here to play willing lusty woman

\\\*\\\*Harsher Kinks:\\\*\\\*

\\\*\\\*BDSM Oriented\\\*\\\*

\\- Body marking, spanking, edging, overstimulation, orgasm denial and control, ruining orgasms.

\\- Degradation, humiliation, body writing, ego stripping, brat taming, slave training, pet training, discipline, punishments, impact play, pet and slave play, TPE of various sorts, body worship (giving and receiving), foot play (giving and receiving), sensation play, breath play.

\\- CNC and freeuse, pain, violence and torture, toys and tools of various kinds, low intensity knives play, watersports and piss play.

\\\*\\\*Mind and Body:\\\*\\\* Torture/abuse, mindfucking, mind break, addiction, control in various ways from pleasure control to toilet control, somnophilia.

\\\*\\\*Social:\\\*\\\* Age gap, ageplay, interfaith, interracial, cheating, cuckquean, taking turns on me, gangbang (picky with scenarios), a housewife or bollywood actress turned into pornstar or porn actress.

\\\*\\\*Actions and Body Specifics\\\*\\\* - Face fucking, slapping, choking, spitting, begging, manhandling, breeding, fisting, impregnation, pinning down, chastity, body hair, sweat, musk, wax, ice.

\\\*\\\*Others:\\\*\\\* Look Changing, hair cut (from long to medium), hair colour (pink, blonde, brown etc). Tattoos.

\\\*\\\*Soft Kinks:\\\*\\\*

\\- Intimacy, romance, cuddling, oral and using hands.

\\- Collars, leashes, any accessory/dress play that you want.

\\\*\\\*Limits:\\\*\\\* Forced, non-con, scat, snuff, blood play.

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So this idea is all about Jaya Kishori who's on her sessions in Australia in 3 places.

Melbourne

Sydney

Perth

On different days with 2-3 days gap between them. So after completing one place she stays alone there and send her staff to next session place. In evening she walk around the city to find a perfect mate and she finds a guy (stranger and australian) at cafe with whom she'll make out

Ref: https://www.reddit.com/r/Womaniyaa/s/papIhFvd80

Name: Kashish

Age: 34

Gender: Female

Pronouns: She/Her

Sexuality: Bisexual

About me: I'm a married woman who's just here to enjoy another side of my life, I'm not into romantic type of things, I'm here to play willing lusty woman

**Harsher Kinks:**

**BDSM Oriented**

- Body marking, spanking, edging, overstimulation, orgasm denial and control, ruining orgasms.

- Degradation, humiliation, body writing, ego stripping, brat taming, slave training, pet training, discipline, punishments, impact play, pet and slave play, TPE of various sorts, body worship (giving and receiving), foot play (giving and receiving), sensation play, breath play.

- CNC and freeuse, pain, violence and torture, toys and tools of various kinds, low intensity knives play, watersports and piss play.

**Mind and Body:** Torture/abuse, mindfucking, mind break, addiction, control in various ways from pleasure control to toilet control, somnophilia.

**Social:** Age gap, ageplay, interfaith, interracial, cheating, cuckquean, taking turns on me, gangbang (picky with scenarios), a housewife or bollywood actress turned into pornstar or porn actress.

**Actions and Body Specifics** - Face fucking, slapping, choking, spitting, begging, manhandling, breeding, fisting, impregnation, pinning down, chastity, body hair, sweat, musk, wax, ice.

**Others:** Look Changing, hair cut (from long to medium), hair colour (pink, blonde, brown etc). Tattoos.

**Soft Kinks:**

- Intimacy, romance, cuddling, oral and using hands.

- Collars, leashes, any accessory/dress play that you want.

**Limits:** Forced, non-con, scat, snuff, blood play.

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So this idea is all about a cuckold theme. The wife will be an independent lady. She's doing a job but we both are living separately due to our jobs i.e. in different cities. She living alone there.

She's a confident and independent but she's a total hungry slut and specially when her husband is not living with her and can't satisfy her.

I want to revolve this RP around the idea where she has an Extramarital affair with a guy where she's living. They fuck each other like fuck rabbits whenever they get chance. They may live as live-in couple also. The guy may be young or older.

Or the other way she also can have multiple affairs with different men. They all fuck and use her like a total slut she's and she likes it all because she's a nymphomaniac slut at all. She also can work as part time escort for some extra income. Possibilities are many.

You can come to me with different ideas from your minds. I'll play as the hotwife. It also may be like she's doing these all with husband's knowledge and he really don't have any problem with these all.

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So this idea is all about Jaya Kishori who's on her sessions in Australia in 3 places.

Melbourne

Sydney

Perth

On different days with 2-3 days gap between them. So after completing one place she stays alone there and send her staff to next session place. In evening she walk around the city to find a perfect mate and she finds a guy (stranger and australian) at cafe with whom she'll make out

Ref: https://www.reddit.com/r/Womaniyaa/s/papIhFvd80

Name: Kashish

Age: 34

Gender: Female

Pronouns: She/Her

Sexuality: Bisexual

About me: I'm a married woman who's just here to enjoy another side of my life, I'm not into romantic type of things, I'm here to play willing lusty woman

**Harsher Kinks:**

**BDSM Oriented**

- Body marking, spanking, edging, overstimulation, orgasm denial and control, ruining orgasms.

- Degradation, humiliation, body writing, ego stripping, brat taming, slave training, pet training, discipline, punishments, impact play, pet and slave play, TPE of various sorts, body worship (giving and receiving), foot play (giving and receiving), sensation play, breath play.

- CNC and freeuse, pain, violence and torture, toys and tools of various kinds, low intensity knives play, watersports and piss play.

**Mind and Body:** Torture/abuse, mindfucking, mind break, addiction, control in various ways from pleasure control to toilet control, somnophilia.

**Social:** Age gap, ageplay, interfaith, interracial, cheating, cuckquean, taking turns on me, gangbang (picky with scenarios), a housewife or bollywood actress turned into pornstar or porn actress.

**Actions and Body Specifics** - Face fucking, slapping, choking, spitting, begging, manhandling, breeding, fisting, impregnation, pinning down, chastity, body hair, sweat, musk, wax, ice.

**Others:** Look Changing, hair cut (from long to medium), hair colour (pink, blonde, brown etc). Tattoos.

**Soft Kinks:**

- Intimacy, romance, cuddling, oral and using hands.

- Collars, leashes, any accessory/dress play that you want.

**Limits:** Forced, non-con, scat, snuff, blood play.

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I wanna explore this angle through this roleplay. It's totally imaginary.

What you think happen if Kunti decide to marry Duryodhana? How their relationship will be as husband and wife?

Some points to role-play on this angle:

1. Their physical intimacy

2. Her wifely duties

3. Her duties as daughter-in-law towards Dhritarashtra and Gandhari

4. Their private moments

I also wanna explore the open raw sexual moments between them with different public scenes breaking all the rules:

1. Having open sex in the courtroom

2. Open raw uninhibited sex in different places of the kingdom

3. Him sharing her with other men (either for fun or as a political strategy)

Come to me with different scenes around this scenario. It's gonna be a bang imo... 😉

Reference for Kunti: Aishwarya Rai, Madhuri Dixit, Anushka Shetty or any other we can choose mutually.

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So this idea is all about a mature milf who is famous for being a slut for money for any men in a city. She's particularly famous for wearing tight or slightly loose white shirt (and downward whatever you want), it's her peculiarity and she always wear fancy bralette beneath the shirt.

So this is the basic idea for the character i wanna play. Let's make multiple scenes around this, how she fucks with different men in different scene and all. Remember i don't wanna be it soft.

Ref: https://www.reddit.com/r/AsianActresses/s/jger64GiO7

Name: Jayshree

Age: 35

Gender: Female

Pronouns: She/Her

Sexuality: Bisexual

About me: I'm a married woman who's just here to enjoy another side of my life, I'm not into romantic type of things, I'm here to play willing lusty woman

\*\*Harsher Kinks:\*\*

\*\*BDSM Oriented\*\*

\- Body marking, spanking, edging, overstimulation, orgasm denial and control, ruining orgasms.

\- Degradation, humiliation, body writing, ego stripping, brat taming, slave training, pet training, discipline, punishments, impact play, pet and slave play, TPE of various sorts, body worship (giving and receiving), foot play (giving and receiving), sensation play, breath play.

\- CNC and freeuse, pain, violence and torture, toys and tools of various kinds, low intensity knives play, watersports and piss play.

\*\*Mind and Body:\*\* Torture/abuse, mindfucking, mind break, addiction, control in various ways from pleasure control to toilet control, somnophilia.

\*\*Social:\*\* Age gap, ageplay, interfaith, interracial, cheating, cuckquean, taking turns on me, gangbang (picky with scenarios), a housewife or bollywood actress turned into pornstar or porn actress.

\*\*Actions and Body Specifics\*\* - Face fucking, slapping, choking, spitting, begging, manhandling, breeding, fisting, impregnation, pinning down, chastity, body hair, sweat, musk, wax, ice.

\*\*Others:\*\* Look Changing, hair cut (from long to medium), hair colour (pink, blonde, brown etc). Tattoos.

\*\*Soft Kinks:\*\*

\- Intimacy, romance, cuddling, oral and using hands.

\- Collars, leashes, any accessory/dress play that you want.

\*\*Limits:\*\* Forced, non-con, scat, snuff, blood play.

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So this idea is all about an indian hotwife and cuck husband. They're already in this relationship since long but no one knows it here. Husband enjoys this relationship a lot.

Finally they decided to have this life fully however they wish so they planned a 10 day long trip to Thailand. Now the actual fun will begin.

The wife will develop relationships in Thailand with other guys, there won't be any limits for her to get fucked. She can freely roam in clubs in night. She also can develop relationships with other tourist or local slutty females. They also can enjoy orgy parties with BBC tourist guys. She can go to specialized places where open fuck and orgies are allowed. Possibilities are lots of, come to me with different ideas not just hi/hello please.

**Kinks:** Free use, extramarital affairs, outdoor, orgies, BBC, lesbian, hardcore ruthless anal, rimjob interracial, arranging guts and internal organs, lots of abuse, lots of sweat, lots of cum, facials, lots of creampies, long hairs, deep sloppy smooching, sloppy BJ, Handjob, public places, oozing milk from boobs, super messy fuck, missionary, standing doggy, wall fuck, stairs fuck.

**Ref:** https://www.reddit.com/r/BLACKED\_GW/s/zRlqAute1Q

**Character Ref:** Janhvi Kapoor, Apoorva Arora, Gima Ashi, Mrunal Thakur, Sonakshi Sinha, Huma Qureshi, Parineeti Chopra, Divyanka Tripathi, Nora Fatehi, Zarine Khan, Munmun Dutta...

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Last year, me and my husband gone for a week long Thailand trip. Where he finally opened up with me about his cuckold kinks. First I've found it so weird as I've never experienced something like that IRL. Slowly we both opened up to eachother that how he imagine it all. He said me he imagine me enjoying with stranger, not just fucking but more things like roaming with a guy on beach, spending time with that guy instead of my husband, clicking my pics with that guy etc etc.

And we finally decided to do this fantasy while our day tour to phi phi island. We both kept distance from eachother so no one can assume us as couple, though we were keeping eyes on eachother. As per the plan i wore some skimpy clothes, a thigh high tight denims and a sleeveless losse crop top.

As we board on the ferry boat, me and my husband sitting separately. Slowly i started to talk with a guy, he was a European white guy. He was fit and tall. We talked more and slowly we got comfortable with eachother, my husband was looking all. Before we reach to the island, my bond became deep with that guy and he's about to make me his new girlfriend. Finally while roaming on beach he asked me about it and i accepted his proposal. I've said him I'm married but didn't open anything about my husband. He didn't know my husband is here too and noticing everything that's happening between me and him.

That day we kissed eachother openly and i also wanked him behind wooden tents where there was not anyone. He kissed and licked me everywhere, lips, neck, chest, shoulders, arms, armpits. I was little scared in starting much as it was my first time with any other man than my husband but then i also enjoyed much and was also excited. The day end like thisz we were not able to fuck eachother but that experience was great.

Finally at resort i told everything about this to my husband and he was rock hard and that night my husband fucked the hell outta me, i got to know that my husband feels excited by these all things.

Let's plan a detailed roleplay based on this theme. You should play bull and husband both. One in 1st person, another in 3rd person

Ref: https://www.reddit.com/r/IndianActressPhotos/s/5TjutpIQU3

So this idea is all about a mature milf who is famous for being a slut for money for any men in a city. She's particularly famous for wearing tight or slightly loose white shirt (and downward whatever you want), it's her peculiarity and she always wear fancy bralette beneath the shirt.

So this is the basic idea for the character i wanna play. Let's make multiple scenes around this, how she fucks with different men in different scene and all. Remember i don't wanna be it soft.

Ref: https://www.reddit.com/r/AsianActresses/s/jger64GiO7

Name: Jayshree

Age: 35

Gender: Female

Pronouns: She/Her

Sexuality: Bisexual

About me: I'm a married woman who's just here to enjoy another side of my life, I'm not into romantic type of things, I'm here to play willing lusty woman

**Harsher Kinks:**

**BDSM Oriented**

- Body marking, spanking, edging, overstimulation, orgasm denial and control, ruining orgasms.

- Degradation, humiliation, body writing, ego stripping, brat taming, slave training, pet training, discipline, punishments, impact play, pet and slave play, TPE of various sorts, body worship (giving and receiving), foot play (giving and receiving), sensation play, breath play.

- CNC and freeuse, pain, violence and torture, toys and tools of various kinds, low intensity knives play, watersports and piss play.

**Mind and Body:** Torture/abuse, mindfucking, mind break, addiction, control in various ways from pleasure control to toilet control, somnophilia.

**Social:** Age gap, ageplay, interfaith, interracial, cheating, cuckquean, taking turns on me, gangbang (picky with scenarios), a housewife or bollywood actress turned into pornstar or porn actress.

**Actions and Body Specifics** - Face fucking, slapping, choking, spitting, begging, manhandling, breeding, fisting, impregnation, pinning down, chastity, body hair, sweat, musk, wax, ice.

**Others:** Look Changing, hair cut (from long to medium), hair colour (pink, blonde, brown etc). Tattoos.

**Soft Kinks:**

- Intimacy, romance, cuddling, oral and using hands.

- Collars, leashes, any accessory/dress play that you want.

**Limits:** Forced, non-con, scat, snuff, blood play.

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*A couple has an online bull from Mumbai. Now the couple is moving to Mumbai for husband's job and they plan to live with their bull*

*The bull and wife has a great relationship. He fucks her a lot as they're living together*

*Now the bull has his sister's marriage at his village. He told his family that he has a girlfriend but actually he don't has, his family incist to take his girlfriend in the marriage so he plans to take the wife as his girlfriend at his village*

*Now the actual thing begins. Everyone in the family incist to marry them right now so now the wife and bull gonna get married at his village. His family is very open minded. They'll also send them on honeymoon after marriage*

*The story will revolve around how they (bull and wife) fuck at his big haveli. How they'll get married. Suhagraat. Their family rituals after marriage i.e. relatives ke ghar khana khane jaana etc etc. The marriage photography. The backless saree wife will wear while staying as their "Bahu". Everyone in family listening their fucking from the bedroom and talking and Murmur about that. The honeymoon fun they'll have after marriage*

*Here the husband will get all the updates and photographs from bull and trust me, he's enjoying all these*

**Roles:**

1. The bull - Played by you in 1st person

2. Wife - Played by me in 1st person

3. Cuck husband - Played by both of us in 3rd person