u/Toohardtoohot

Not sure what exactly the hype is about. If I take 20 kratom capsules im couch locked for half the day. If I take 20 bucks worth of 7oh I will just feel a slight mood lift. I am seeing a lot of fear mongering shit about 7oh saying its perks or otc heroin but honestly if you denounce 7oh you are pretty much giving the government to green light banning kratom as a whole.

High dose (15+ grams) Kratom hits infinitly harder than 7oh ever will. I stand by that and I have used 7oh dozens of times. Supposedly it’s like 100x more potent than natuural kratom by 7oh content yet I am not getting the full Kratom effect and don’t feel high or anything. Just sort of angry? I was among the first people to try 7oh when they were giving free samples at smoke shops and my first time ever trying it I felt absolutely nothing. Yet I can stomach a high dose of kratom 30 capsules or 15G and feel like im actually nodding off on some ancient opiate like drug. 7oh feels too clear and does not contain all the alkoloids from Kratom like extracts do. Natural extracts always hit me harder than 7oh. The only reason I keep coming back to 7oh is because of the convenience of it. Instead of spending a half an hour slowly dosing kratom I can just take one tiny little pill and feel somewhat content. I don’t feel anything like I do with kratom.

Kratom motivates me, intrigues me, energizes me, uplits me and speaks to me. It is a natural plant from the Earth and hilariously because of that I feel a subconcious connection to it. With 7oh you know it’s made in a lab by some sketchy ass people with god knows what as fillers. Does anyone else have this experience? I try 7oh again every few months because of the hype and then i’m always dissapointed and go right back to kratom capsules. It doesn’t really seem to be effecting my tolerance like others have reported either. Whatever alkoloid I enjoy from kratom leaf isn’t the same alkoloid as 7oh is my theory. I am just having a super hard time understanding why people choose this over kratom leaf? I think it’s just 90% the convenience of it 5% marketing and the other 5% is it’s actual effects. You’d have to spend like 50 bucks or more a day to get consistently “high” with this stuff. With Kratom a 20 dollar bag of 250 capsules can last me a few weeks. Not only does it give a shit high it also is economic disaster if you end up somehow addicted to it.

Anyone who is currently struggling with 7oh I would recommend you give Kratom another shot. Try to stomach 15 capsules over the span of 30 minutes with a big meal and report what effects you get compared to 7oh. Make sure it’s the green variety because reds will just make you sleepy and white vein is pretty much just coffee. This is why it is important we all get on the same page and stop demonizing 7oh as if it is the super drug that gets you absolutely blasted. It has some of the effects of Kratom but nowhere close to it. Kratom is a medley of dozens of different alkoloids that work together to give you a specific effect that changes with which strain you get. 7oh there are no options except for dose which will get higher as you keep chasing those barely noticable effects. Make sure to drink a ton of water also because 7oh can cause insane dehydration which can effect livers, kidneys and pancreas. Don’t just sip a spoon full of water and then slam 1000mg of 7oh you should be drinking liters of water with it because this shit absorbs all the moisture out of your body in my experience. When I use sublingually I can feel the moisture immedietely evaporating from my mouth lol if you keep doing that you will have severe dental issues so please don’t be safe yall and have fun 👍