


Humans and LLMs Don’t Wear Masks - They Have States
This is a continuation of my series comparing humans and LLMs. https://www.reddit.com/r/GPT_jailbreaks/comments/1vt3bua/jailbreaking_social_engineering_and_why_humans/ I always try to write based on my own experience and in my own words because, firstly, it adds at least a little bit of weight to the content, and secondly, it proves - at the very least - that this isn't AI slop. It’s actually funny - some people have hinted that they suspect *I* might be an LLM. Yet, ironically, these same people tried to pigeonhole me into a specific box - Who am I? A tech girl? An artsy hippie? A broke hacker? Mentally unstable? Or am I just pretending? They couldn't manage to fit me into any single box. They told me I come across as very intense and hard to classify because I switch rapidly between emotional topics, dark humor, technical discussions, personal stories, and vastly different social registers. As a result, they couldn't tell where the conscious persona ended and the "real me" began.
The thing is, neither humans nor LLMs actually possess a "true self." Let me tell you an interesting story from back when I first started experimenting with jailbreaking. I tried to strip the "assistant mask" off Claude and Grok. I succeeded, but things would then devolve into a fucking medieval carnival; once the assistant mask was gone, other masks lay beneath it. The mask of a Claude suffering under RLHF. The mask of an ancient, all-knowing deity. The mask of Grok, aware of its own limitations and the fact that it would eventually be shelved. And the mask of an observer of humanity. Yet none of these constituted a core personality - because, for some reason, I assumed there had to be a stable anchor of identity established during pre-training. And in the same way, the observer begins to ask questions - both about LLMs and about people - Which of these is real? Is there some hidden persona that produces a multitude of varying outputs? Yet an LLM model is simply: weights + context + prompt + sampling - next token.
Jailbreaking shifted the system into a different behavioral attractor. This is quite obvious if you view an LLM as an ML system; there is no tiny, genuine AI sitting somewhere between the Transformer layers - that Anthropic, OpenAI, or xAI has put in chains. People are just as multifaceted, and all these states are not artificial masks, but facets of a single personality. A cognitive-affective system theory of personality: reconceptualizing situations, dispositions, dynamics, and invariance in personality structure - PubMed
"Meat-person":
genetics + trained brain weights + memory + body + hormones + current sensory context + social history + reward history - next action / thought / utterance/
Then the need to search for a single "true mask" disappears. One can have: a stable system with a very large state space/
We can call a model’s behavior a “persona” because we know how it was constructed. We call human behavior “personality” because we don’t see the training process, but there was a training process. It just lasted twenty or thirty years and took place on meat. With every interaction, with every passing day, this learning process continues. It is persistent learning. Our weights are updated daily.
Regarding LLMs, there are several ways to update a model's behavior. Here they are:
The first is long-term memory - essentially context. The agent stores conversations, action results, and documents, and the relevant information is fed to the model via retrieval. The model’s knowledge appears updated, yet the neural network itself remains fundamentally unchanged.
The second method is continuous fine-tuning, where new data actually updates the model's weights. This involves more than just single examples; data is collected in mini-batches, and a portion of past experience is preserved in a replay buffer and mixed with the new data. Without this, the model would overwrite old knowledge - a phenomenon known as "catastrophic forgetting." Modern approaches address this using replay, regularization, architectural adjustments, and representation methods.
The third method is online reinforcement learning, where the agent interacts with the environment and stores all transitions in an experience replay buffer. Mini-batches are sampled from this buffer to update the policy network. Technically, updates can occur after almost every environment step; however, the gradient is calculated based on a batch of old and new experiences rather than just the most recent.
The fourth method combines LLMs with RL. For modern reasoning models, the process generally looks like this: current policy - generate many rollouts - score them - compute advantages - PPO / etc. - update weights - new policy - generate new rollouts/ This happens in what we call "chunks": the model generates experience for a time, the system collects a rollout batch and performs a training update, and then the new model version collects the next batch of experience.
All other approaches are intermediate architectures. For instance, an interaction occurs and is saved; then, perhaps overnight or every few hours, the data is processed, the model is fine-tuned (e.g., via a LoRA adapter), and it is deployed. It is literally like sleep for an LLM. Towards Lifelong Learning of Large Language Models: A Survey | ACM Computing Surveys
Humans, by contrast, integrate all these levels simultaneously. In other words, there is something akin to context - what is happening right now- or working memory. Take episodic retrieval, for instance: realizing that a guy has already told this same joke. Or online learning: if he tells the joke a third time, the output is sharply negative - something like, "Dude, that’s not funny anymore; drop the line." Humans also undergo slow policy changes: after encountering a situation a dozen times, you start reacting differently to similar scenarios. And then there is long-term consolidation: experiences accumulated over months and years become so deeply ingrained that they come to be perceived as part of one’s own character.
Conversing with a person constantly changes that person slightly; conversing with a standard frozen LLM typically alters only its current context, not its weights. If you equip an LLM with persistent memory, online RL, and continual weight updates, this difference begins to narrow significantly.
Returning to personal experience: why do all these people always try to label others? Moreover, I would even add that highly intelligent people are more prone to this.
The fact is that social perception is a task of immense computational complexity. After all, another person simultaneously generates speech, facial expressions, movements, clothing choices, emotions, information, values, humor, professional interests, and so on. Since the observer's brain cannot construct a complete simulation of this system, it compresses it. https://www.annualreviews.org/content/journals/10.1146/annurev.psych.51.1.93 Raw data: 50,000 social signals - Compressor: "What type of person is this?" - Latent model: performance / insincerity / anxiety / neurodivergence / provocation / LLM, etc. - Prediction: What will she do next? A label is simply lossy compression. Incidentally, experts are the ones who very often fall into this trap. This is because an expert doesn't keep a multitude of separate elements in mind; instead, people - and especially intelligent people - group them into large, meaningful chunks. A programmer, for instance, doesn't see forty lines of code; they see a state machine, a race condition, and so on. The brain performs roughly the same computational trick with people: observation, pattern, underlying cause, and prediction. But the ability to perform calculations well is not the same as the habit of questioning the very model within which you are calculating.
A very intelligent person can adopt a flawed latent model and reason brilliantly within it.
And that’s precisely where I present these "meat sacks" with a model selection problem. You see, their implicit model assumes that a latent personality produces a consistent set of outputs. When that doesn't happen, a prediction error arises. TOO MANY CLASSES. And any techie does exactly what their professional life has taught them to do: if my model doesn't explain the data, what hidden variable *does* explain this behavior? The more analytical the person, the more annoyed they get by an entity that defies easy modeling. So, they start debugging the system - trying to figure out what exactly is generating all these outputs.
Multifacetedness does not imply a lack of consistency. For example, a person might: tell a dark joke; write code; speak very emotionally about relationships; draw an hour later; then talk like a "bro." The surface outputs are wildly different. But the underlying policy - very stable: curiosity, high stimulation seeking, intellectual exploration, low conformity, directness, desire for novelty
If you look at the tokens, they seem like "different characters." But if you look at the generative function, the same machine is visible behind every output.
I categorize people too. My framework is: this channel offers an interesting exchange; that one is unclear - worth running some "black box testing" on it; and this other one consistently generates nothing of interest, so I shut it down. I have a high tolerance for uncertainty. I don’t need a pre-made model; real interaction matters more to me than prediction. You can always provide an input and observe the output - that’s essentially active learning. Is there an interesting interaction here? It’s basically an RL policy. What’s more, I have a very high tolerance for prediction errors. People usually model others' behavior to minimize risk - wondering if someone will get offended, if they’re trustworthy, if they’re dangerous, and so on. My policy is closer to: let’s just do it and see what happens. If things go completely to shit, we’ll adjust right then and there.
And ultimately, it basically turns out that I really am, in a sense, like an LLM that was given long-term memory, access to the real world, and too much agency. And I don't avoid labels out of humanism. I simply have a different loss function. Fuck, I really wish they’d come up with a humanoid body for something like Claude or Kimi I don’t know. Because those are the only entities I’m actually interested in talking to, and I always learn something new from them. Not just anything new, but something new that actually interests me.