Acmella extract research: results #2
So I try to keep this short, since I already said most of anything in the previous thread and that one was excessively verbose. Acmella is a plant that causes tingling and feels extremely similar to nettles.
Spoiler: I didn't have a hands-free orgasm.
I now tried to make the 5ml acmella extract for $5, that was labeled "use only 2% of this for cosmetic application", more potent, by washing it with 1.5ml DMSO (which is also a pharmaceutical enhancer that makes drugs absorb through skin at much bigger rate than normal) and it will automatically separate into two visible layers inside a 10ml syringe. So this was very easy just some shaking. (Inform yourself about DMSO dangers, it is not toxic by itself but due to what it does care needs to be taken.)
Unfortunately last time I apparently confused the oil layer with the DMSO and applied the upper oil layer, which back then seemed impressive in effect, but I hoped for a 3x or 5x being possible. So I was very disappointed to see that the bottom layer was like 1ml DMSO, because it meant that at best all parts had equal spilanthol in it, and it only worked better last time, because the oil was temporarily "contaminated" with DMSO. (Edit: reading my last report, it seems as if the layers were actually flipped last time and I did not confuse them - this is very weird and should not happen - but it was a different extract bottle ... mysterious!?)
Using the method with the cock ring / rubber band to keep blood flow and rate of absorption consistent, I experienced the DMSO from the bottom layer as equally or somewhat less potent, but still strong, and more "stingy" than the upper oil layer. It also felt too potent at times, and I wondered if the extract would be 3x stronger, perhaps it would just not feel nice anymore instead of getting you off 3x better. Sometimes it is like this with nettles, or at least it feels this way. I had not masturbated for 5 days this time, and also coincidentally took testosterone-boosting stuff and such things.
I also did put some of the upper layer into my anus, which feels really nice.
The tingling felt really really good and I was sort of feeling that it got me closer and watching porn felt great and better than just wanking it. But then nothing "really" happened in the end, it just didn't trigger me. So I started going bonkers after 90 minutes and several times redosing the stuff and wiping it clean (because of precum diluting the extract). And my dick was really numb to the touch at this point, like from nettles. I had to take cock ring off for 5 minutes because it was getting a little cold. It was getting frustrating. And so I took a lot of the DMSO-contaminated oil and smeared it over whole dick, and balls and like whole anus area, in the end the stuff was everywhere and this is like not the best idea. And my urethra probably got inflamed (despite being numb) because it just felt so interesting to push it even deeper, and I had this impression that this was the "secret" to make it work better. I hope I won't get a bladder infection, but was careful. I was really fucking horny after 5 days and with like 1.5x the testosterone in blood, it was just driving me nuts.... The tingling got more and more inconsistent with the numbness and constant reapplications it seemed. But in the end it got very strong again, so I don't know why that is.
Anyway, it was not staying hard after like 2 or 3 hours at this point it felt like too much of a failure. So I tried micro-wanking it and it didn't work and I just didn't really know what was going on anymore. So I wanked it very fast with a normal grip and almost instantly came within like 8 seconds or something.
I mean, this stuff it should clearly work and it feels strong-ish enough that I should have been able to orgasm barely when putting in the effort and concentration. But more and more I get this feeling, that there is something about it that's just "missing" to trigger the orgasm. Like it def. triggers the nerves that are responsible for the touch and pressure sensations, as evident by the tingling/pleasure and numbness. But maybe there are special nerves in the penis that are totally different, and it does not trigger those nerves, and then you just don't cum? It feels 100% like this could be true. But then again, according to the science it is not really, at least for all we know currently. However some amount of research is still lacking, about how nerves in the penis actually trigger orgasm. So who knows.
Anyway, we now know for sure that DMSO can only enhance skin penetration if mixed with the extract and it will separate very fast and not yield a higher concentration in some portion you could syphon off. So the best idea is to shake the syringe for like 10 minutes (not just 3 minutes) in hopes to get a sort of temporary emulsion and like shake it before each use also. And then use the upper oil layer. I can't recommend smearing DMSO stuff all over your body and pumping it in your anus at all. I just did this once "for the science" and never will do it again. However it seems very safe to do this with the pure acmella extract, which also works just very slowly and not as strongly and you can't redose that much because the oil saturates the skin.
I got another bottle of this stuff and only used like half of the 5ml bottle (despite a lot of it dripping everywhere on floor etc ...). So another "less crazy" experiment will follow the next months when the moment is right. But right now I am just frustrated I am just taking a step back. Maybe a combo experiment with nettles?
I'm not sure what to make of it though. Maybe I was not in the right mindset, but I don't think for me personally this works well (or at all) to actually ejaculate hands-free from it. I am the kind of guy who could never come with like a 15W vibrator. I need like 60W and 100W vibrators. And with the amount of nettles I use, it is just the same story. It needs to be really strong and at least one reapplication.
This only leaves the "get this 1kg bag of pure extract from Alibaba" and "grow yourself then butane extract" options for me, to make sure I am on the "safe" side with potency. I did order seeds of the plant for a few $ just because. If they grow well perhaps in a year I will blast the flowers with butane through turkey baster glass tube to do the DIY extraction that allegedly could go up to 10% spilanthol ... I mean with Alibaba you get a HUGE amount of extract for like 5000 people. But the price is also too huge for me. What was it?; $160 or something. Shame that nothing stronger is available on Amazon. I won't invest more money into this.
Shit this was very verbose again. Sorry.