u/Change_Lazy

I’m aware of all the cons and the horrible long term withdrawal but some of us are on a limited stash with a high mgm habit. I’m clocking 3-500 mg a day.

Has anyone resorted to methadone treatment? Since they only start at 15-30mg how long did it take til they titrated you up enough to cover for high dose mgm withdrawals?

Does anyone have experience with this, instead of just saying it’s a bad idea (I’m already aware it a bad idea but withdrawals aren’t on my menu with the mental health issues and losses I’ve took in the past year to get to this habit anyway after a decade clean from h)

The mme is ridiculous to match morphine, however mgm doses never felt that strong to me. I’m wondering if I get up to like 60-90mg if that would cover me before I run out of mgm to cover the evenings. I’m pretty sure starting doses won’t cover this habit and I’m looking to taper down and try and do 7 to sr but with limited time I’m not sure if it will be possible or if I’ll be disciplined enough.

So I have a 250-400 mg a day lab tested online MGM habit (2 months) preceded by a 7oh habit that ended up around 500mg-1000mg mostly smokeshop tabs but some online (9 month habit starting from lower dose at first).

I would like to completely quit without getting dependent on subs. I am looking to see if anyone has jumped from a high dose mgm right onto sr/ helper meds with similar protocol and if they were able to avoid acutes. Tapering is hard for me, however I do plan to preload/ taper first few days of sr17.

I have the following helper meds from both us and overseas pharmacies :

Sr-17018 4gs
Ativan 30 1 mg (will wait to quit on refill day so I have plenty and a tolerance break first)
Clonidine .1 mg 30
Ropinirole .25 mg x 30
Gabapentin 90 x 300 mg
Liposomal vit c 1800mg x 90
Black seed oil 2000 mg x 40
Agmatine sulfate 1000mg x 40
Tongkat Ali +ashwaganda vit mix for endocrine system

I plan to use up to the full 4gs of sr and plan to start preload 75mg first 3 days then switch to a higher dose of around 100-150mg x3 for the first few days once off mgm completely.

Does this look like an arsenal that can provide-

1. No restless leg/ arm full body kicking?
2. Ability to work a few hours a day outside doing light labor? Luckily I can skip this if absolutely necessary.
3. At least a few hours of sleep at night

Also, Would it be better to switch to ultra high dose 500-1000mg 7oh for 3-4 days or a week max alongside Ativan before quitting the 7 instead with sr? Is it absolutely necessary to taper the MGM down below 100mg or switch to 7oh before jumping for the SR17 to work its magic? For me tapering is tough when I have mgm on hand. So it’s easier for me to just do a preload to CT with SR preload, and throw high dose SR + helpers at it as needed during acutes.

What would you change or add to this stack?

Also Has anyone ever actually used ropinirole to help with the RLS from acutes? Note I only got 30 to avoid augmenting risk of this med, and urge others to look the risk up if considering to use it for RLS.

I also already take pieces of Seroquel 300mg most days thru out the day, should I cut the seroquel completely during my quit? Or add it in at full or higher dose? I’ve heard it can exacerbate RLS like Benadryl but it also can surely knock you out pretty good, unsure during a quit which way that’d go - if anyone’s tried it please lmk that also.

Thanks to all the other folks posting and helping every day. And anyone who has a personal experience they want to share with these specific helper meds I have available to me!