r/quitmgm15

Like say i quit CT 100mgpd of mgm, hows that looking like 3-4 days of hell then day 5 its better? i know with tianeptine it was 4 days of hell but day 5 was okay but i used phenibut during that time. i know 7oh is also short half life but mgm it lasts longer and i just need some advice on the timeline i cant find nearly any posts talking about this, i do plan to use SR some pregaba, gabapintin, a few other things and maybe a benzo here n there. but with SR im afraid itll just prolong the withdrawal i kinda want to just CT it once im low like 30mgpd low but i only have 4 weeks to get that low. just want a timeline and need to figure out how much work to get ready to take off

I’ve done with with 7, but never mgm. I attempted Burnese Method with subs. Was only able to taper down a little. I’m at like… 500mg/day mgm. Got down to 320 today. I’ve got up to 1.5
mg 2x dose of sub per day. Taking 8mg sub tomorrow alone no mgm.

I’ve done this at 2000mg/day 7oh and it worked like a miracle, but I didn’t preload the subs. Just waited for withdrawal… I can’t do that again. I’m still in shock from how bad it was. I had my 4 y/o son with me then, luckily I had daycare to take him to on a Friday right after I induced. Not that fortunate this time, he’ll be with me till next all day, til next Friday. Thankful for the long weekend, is all I can say.

I have developed a quit kit in the process of myself quitting mgm-15 that includes various vitamins in assisting in decreasing the withdrawal symptoms, gabapentin 300 mg tablets, thc gummies and also distillate, melatonin capsules to assist with sleep, two grams of sr-17018, black seed oil, a quarter gram of mgm-15 or 7oh to assist during the pre load phase, a benzodiazepine to assist with anxiety and sleep. A few additional things can be added. Does anyone have any additional recommendations or ideas? It’s ready to go out but I just wanted to know if I could improve it at all?

Anybody know if black seed oil from Walmart or Walgreens is the same thing? I found some called pure cold pressed black seed oil? Thanks! And any other stuff I can get

Okay so I've been doing over 500mg a day of 7oh for several months now. I quit awhile back using just subs but this time I added pseudo to the mix and it's been a bit more difficult so I started taking about 150mg of 7oh alongside 20mg of mgm15... I've been able to go longer without re dosing and I'm not getting high off the added mgm. I'm basically just baseline but I'm concerned about a few things;

A. Am I really even using less and tapering at all? If I am how do I keep doing this and keep dropping?

B. Am I going to end up dependent on mgm and end up stuck on it when it's time to try to make the full jump or will it just be remnants of 7oh withdrawal?

I just want to be done with Kratom alkaloids once and for all. I'm spending so much money just to feel normal on 7oh now that it makes me absolutely sick to look at anymore.. I honestly have no cravings or desire to get high on the mgm at all at this point but even if I never go up on the mgm am I about to make things worse?? (second day doing this so far. Have taken about 80mg of mgm total so far)

Just my worthless opinion on a few matters. Maybe a bit of a personal rant. First, this forum isn’t near as cult like and weird as the 7O Reddit. Mods here seem more interested in help and peace and harmony rather than playing everyone’s favorite game on here in “Who’s the more knowledgeable junkie”…
I see a lot of strength, determination, love, and helpfulness on here, but I also see a lot of garbage. Not so much this thread, but the other quit threads mainly. Stop shaming people for choosing Suboxone. We’re addicts. We all know a price must be paid for anything we put in our body. Mat is meant to stabilize, while YOU WORK A RECOVERY, and to take the time to get to the roots of your issues. But if you want to just take it a week and rapid taper off, then that’s your business and best of luck to ya. And I don’t need to hear “It was never meant for long term, blah blah”…Yes… MAT clinics have no intention of tapering you off Suboxone once you start, it has to be YOUR job and YOUR position to say what and for how long. They work for you, not the other way around. And what is 3-6 months on a medication to get some sobriety under your belt, improve your health and position, and get control back of your life? Would you rather that person to continue relapsing for another 5 years? But I back up and support anybody quitting, no matter how you choose to do it. That’s the whole point right? Stabilize, work a program, heal, taper off, go to the shot, do it right…I know Reddit is toxic, idk why I even chimed in instead of just lurking and reading like usual. Just changing things up this morning I guess. Best of luck and prayers to all quitters. Quit January, 24th.

I’ve got 3 grams on the way. Hydroxie just got pulled from the shelves. Luckily I bought enough to get me another 10-12 days. Pending any delayed serious withdrawal symptoms coming. SR coming Tuesday so I should have just enough to preload and hop off before I run out. Just wondering how much I should preload and how bad was it for other people on MGM15.

i only took 120mg a day for the last 3 months and ive been 3 days now and this is the worst ive ever felt, can i take subs now? should i just thugg it out..? im trying ti remain solid cause i dont want to rely on mgm15 anymore but i dont wsnt to keep having to shit my brains out every other hour. i cant hold food down at all with out getting nauseous, i had a bloody nose due to me blowing my nose hella.. and im feeling lost in mt mind.. someone help..

Been taking 30-50/day for close to 2 months and so far today I've taken about 6mg 10 hours ago when I woke up and I feel totally fine. Upped my 7 a little bit, maybe 10%, and added 60mg of 30% MIT to my last leaf dose and I legit feel fine. Energy is starting to come back, feeling restless, but I think this taper isn't going to be as bad as I was worried it might.

I just created the first episode of this podcast!! My goal is to create a space for people who are sober curious or newly sober to get a glimpse at what life is like in early recovery. The good and the bad, the easy and the hard. It can be lonely at first mainly if you’re the only person in your life who is sober so this podcast is here so you don’t have to feel alone all the time!

i’ve been researching through some 7oh subreddits, and see a lot of mixed answers. some people say to take the nac and agmatine an hour before your 7oh dose in the morning, or once at night before bed, or only a couple times a week?
i took 1000mg agmatine sulfate and 600mg of nac this morning an hour before dosing. as well as have been taking liposomal vitamin c the last 2 days (the vitamin c works great for WD it’s insane) but i just want to get the doses and timing right, and would like to hear from others how they tapered off with supplements.
my 7oh dose was 300-400mg a day, but the last 2 weeks i was taking 100-200mg of mgm-15 1-2x a day instead of 7oh, then tried to use just 7oh for the WD but it wasn’t helping much so i started using the vitamin c with 7oh to taper.

I know subs aren't for everyone, I get that. But Ive had pretty decent luck with them in the past. So this is what I feel is right for me for right now at least. Today will be my last day on mgm (the expensive otc tabs). Those who are on a high-ish dose, and that have transtioned to subs HELP LOL...questions-- I have sub films, tablets and helper meds (clonodine,hydroxizine,nausea meds). Will this be enough to help me transition onto subs and will 4-5 days be enough time to stabilize on them before going back to full time job? Anything helpful over the counter etc to add to regimine? Any other insights or helpful info/stories appreciated! PLZ & TY!!! After today Im seeing this through- even if it kill$ me! One way or another I have to have some control back.

I now realize i have until june 24th to order my last order, itll likely last me two week, i was at 60mg 3x a day but i had this phenibut situation happen and i ruined my tolorance to mgm i now have to dose every 5 hours at 60mg and sure i was at 120mg but i have even less time than i thought id have. i have 3 grams of SR and i just need to know all the helper meds, people say after 3 days the 4th day subs will start working. im wondering should i be ordering subs over the internet for myself bc i know quickmd can only give you so much of it. i dont have insurance so i cant just go to rehab or something idk im freaking tf out tbr i ruined my work my months of work and i have like 4 weeks left pretty much i need a game plan bad

I have been tapering MGM over the past few weeks, and tomorrow will be my last dose. I got my doses down to 15-30mg 2 times per day, using 63%mgm as my last batch. When I got down to the lower doses, I started dosing 30mg of 7 to make it to my next dose somewhat withdrawal free.

I will be switching to 7 for the next week. Starting at 30mg per dose and working my way down until preloading. My question is, how much SR should I use during the preload phase, and how much should I take afterwards? I’ve heard some people say 100-150 per dose and others say 30-50 is fine.

I know it’s different for everyone, but I have just under 2 grams of SR on deck. I wanted to make sure this was enough, and I’m going to dose out pills while on my last dose of MGM. I get super unmotivated and lethargic when it’s not in my daily life, so I’m expecting the worst and want to be fully prepared. Speaking of being prepared, I’ll share a list of the helper meds and supplements I have acquired after months of lurking on here and the quitmgm sub. Any advice on some sort of schedule would be great. Anytime I try to have chatGPT make me one, it tells me it’s dangerous to use SR since it’s in early research phase and doesn’t make me a taper schedule.

Supplements:
Liposomal vitamin c
Black seed oil
Magnesium glycinate
Agmatine sulfate
DLPA
Dopa Mucana
L-Tyrosine
L-Theanine

Meds:
Valium
Hydroxine
Gabapentin
Baclofen
Tizanadine
Zofran
Adderal
Wellbutrin

The muscle relaxers and gabapentin are prescribed for chronic pain conditions and I use them daily, though the gabapentin I only started a couple weeks ago. I’m not sure that I will get the same relieve others do with them. I am hoping that I can get by and past the pain on these meds combined with the Botox injections in the future. I’m ready to leave these alkaloids behind.

Hi everyone. I figured I would post this here instead of the regular mgm15 page because I feel like they would be rude about any negative comments regarding mgm15. Anyways… Has anyone noticed their Adderall or any other ADHD medications not working as well or not working at all since being on mgm15. Thank you

Let me start with this, I am taking plain leaf here and there. After 14 days of no sleep and temperature issues I got some plain leaf. I have been tapering that but let me just say that I haven’t been this happy in a long time. My finances have improved, my relationships, my physical appearance. Everything is moving UP! 20ish days ago I couldn’t have imagined being where I am now, but looking back the time started to fly after that 2 week mark. Surprisingly I have not struggled with any depression, maybe the plain leaf is aiding that. The only thing I’ve noticed is a little anxiety during the day at times but not anything I can’t manage. If you’re thinking of quitting or you’re just getting started into your quit, keep going! You CAN do this. It may feel like an eternity in the moment when you’re suffering, but before you know it the days will turn into weeks and then the weeks to months. Good luck everyone. 💕

Hi, sorry for my English — I’m a Swedish guy.

I’ve been on MGM for about 100 days. Unfortunately, my only supplier is sold out, and in the best-case scenario I’ll be able to get more in about two weeks.

My dose has been between 60–80 mg/day. Over the last three days, I’ve tapered down to 40 mg/day, and it’s been tough.

I have around 250 mg left and I’m planning to reduce to 30 mg/day starting tomorrow.

SR-17018 is basically impossible to get here.

The positive side is that I have plenty of Kratom, Phenibut, Gabapentin, Zopiclone, and Vyvanse.

How would you do?

I fell asleep early last night without dosing (150mg per day mgm habit). I awoke at 7am with full body RLS and decided to see what would happen if I dosed 7 instead of mgm. Consumed 75mg of high quality 7 powder and got full relief 15 minutes later. Just wanted to share.

So I've been tapering for a bit, and I'm close to jumping off. I kind of want some pseudo to dose in case I need something for an emergency. I've seen others talk about success switching from mgm to pseudo. My problem is, I can't find any pseudo. I was planning on getting from Stout, but he's not carrying it at the moment. I just want pseudo powder that is hopefully just pseudo. Any recs would be really nice.

my use has been mixed lately with mgm 15, typically doing 150-250 mg in the morning and 90-150 mg at night. I got a gram of sr delivered today. Should I take 100 mg of the SR tonight with my normal 90-150 mg dose? and then tomorrow cut down to 100mg of the MGM and use 50mg 3x daily of the SR? I don’t wanna do it wrong and waste the sr