u/opiedopie55

It’s time for everyone to make a plan. Hopefully you stocked up so you can taper. Sr is being banned too so hopefully everyone stocked up on that as well.

I wanted to just post this bc the single most helpful aspect of quitting opiates is exercise. You should start before you quit! You have to push yourself and make sure you do something daily for an hour. The endorphins exercise releases is the single most effective thing you can do to repair your depleted dopamine and other hormones. There’s no magic supplement that will do a fraction of what exercise does

You might find your self addicted to exercise which is prob the lease destructive thing out there to be addicted to!

Wishing everyone the best and take a breath and relax. There’s easy ways to get off this stuff and tried and true methods to do so that we have used here successfully!

So long story short I’ve been on and off opiates for about 25 years. It’s literally the only thing that helps my crohns disease, I’ve tried everything. When opiates constipate others it just makes me regular. I have very fast digestion so that slowness it causes actually helps me

It’s ashame they’re banning mgm bc it really has a place in pain management. No other opiate has helped me more and I think it has to do with the half life being longer. I only get euphoria really when I dose too much and this time I’m going to try to actually take it responsible.

The last couple days I’ve been doing 2 doses of 6mg. I was up to 150mg when I quit last time and that quit lasted a little over a month. So my new plan is to hopefully only get up to 50mg daily and once I get there, hopefully not in less than 3 months I’ll do another quit. I really tried this time to make it my forever quit since it’s getting banned but my pain is just not tolerable. I have 2 small children and a business to run and the constant pain just makes everything in my life suffer.

I’ve tried to support everyone here and help them with their quitting so I just wanted to be honest. I’m no saint. I have abused opiates for more than just pain relief. But I think this time will be different. I’m going to really make an effort to only take 2 doses a day and try to keep my mg low. But eventually I will run out and since it’s getting banned I won’t have any other options. Rough math if I only take 50mg daily I should have enough for 2 years haha. Maybe I’ll order a kilo of it, I prob should. It’s sad that big pharma and politicians are having this substance banned instead of researching and perfecting it along with sr17.

All pain patients should take tolerance breaks and sr is fantastic for that. I really tried and I’m pretty depressed I couldn’t make it more than a month. I’m sure I could if I had to, and eventually I will have to unless some miracle cure is developed. But just having access to this stuff and knowing I can end my pain in 20 minutes with a small dose, I just couldn’t abstain anymore.

This group has been amazing and got me through a lot of anxiety I’ve had while getting addicted to this stuff in the first place. So I guess I’ll continue to be the guinea pig here and try other substances along side of mgm to try and keep my tolerance as low as possible!

Thanks everyone for the support. The stigma of being an addict while trying to alleviate pain needs to stop. Medicine in this country is really just a business and its goal isn’t helping people it’s only profit. Along with the food supply being poisoned which likely either started my crohns or exacerbated it. Posting this made me very depressed as I’ve been here cheering many on their journey to quit only to fail myself.

Has anyone taken this stuff? I got some 50mg pills from raw

I’ve been off 7 and mgm for about a month now and of course the reason I always start opioids is my stomach issues, crohns. I took half of one before bed tonight at 8pm and it was super mellow. I didn’t really feel high at all, usually I would start with some mit and that gives me the opiate buzz that gets me addicted again.

Just wondering if anyone has been addicted/dependent on this c9 and if the WD are just as bad as everything else. Already my stomach feels settled and I had a solid bowel movement, which with crohns that’s usually few and far between.

I could also see this stuff potentially working for people weaning of mgm so there might be some value in it at that level as most take mit. Hoping that this stuff might be a better alternative for me. Opioids slow my digestion down, where most people get constipated it just makes me regular, even at high doses I rarely went a day without using the bathroom. Maybe at 150+ mg of mgm or 300ish+ of 7oh I would skip a day.

Tldr
Has anyone become depending on c9 and what was WD like? Did traditional helper meds work?

So many people are having issues or asking questions so figured I would make this post.

I’ve quit several times with success. The best method was tapering mgm under 100mg/day, 50 is ideal. Then switching to 7oh, approx 1.5-2mg 7 to every mg of mgm. Do that for 3-5 days then preload your sr or subs. Do that for 2-3 days then start to taper off that for 7-10 days. Try not to do 2 weeks bc then dependency can form.

Voila you’re clean. Day 1 dropping off your doc might be a little rough. Nothing your helper meds can’t fix tho.

Best helper meds imo, many threads list all these as well. I don’t know what supplements actually work vs don’t bc I err on the side of caution and just take them all.

Pregabalin
Clonidine
Vitamin c liposomal
Black seed oil
Magnesium

Research chem benzo for anxiety also worked great. I used pyrazolam. Feels like Ativan I guess. Def took the edge off especially day one dropping the DOC.

Pharma for after quitting that seems to work for paws imo is modafinil (not as addictive as adderall and doesn’t mess with your dopamine). Wellbutrin I also may try, I have to research quitting that more and make sure it’s not similar to quitting an ssri.

The pharma drugs you can order at Reliablerx or pctzone.su. Takes 10-14 days and is super cheap.

7oh can be ordered even in banned states. Can pm me for that info I don’t want to out the companies on blast here.

Research chem benzo pm me also

Went to buy a vape, another habit I really need to quit, left the house for the first time since my last dose, and the dude at the shop recognized me from a couple months ago when I bought hyroxi there. Told me $20/pack and he has some in the back. I literally felt like I was gonna have diarrhea and got goose bumps immediately. Funny how your brain works.

I was on 12 of these fuckers a day at my highest and tapered down and got off everything for 5 full days and couldn’t say no, sorry Nancy Reagan. I took 2 of them and was floored, must admit I felt amazing which I haven’t felt in the last month or so as they didn’t work great for me anymore towards the end of my brief 3-4 month current binge. Before that I was clean for 5 years besides a couple weekend benders on various opiates that somehow landed in my lap.

I took them around 2pm and haven’t taken any of my sr this evening like I usually do. Going to see how I feel in the am when I wake up. Maybe it was a hack to complete my quit but I doubt it. Would be awesome if I just feel like I do now, 10 hours later, when I wake up tomorrow am. Hopefully this doesn’t set me back too much. I selfishly am glad Florida banned this stuff. If it was sold everywhere I couldn’t control myself unfortunately. I understand some people can use it responsibly and they should be allowed to do so, but I’m not that person. I’m 100% an addict I just need to go back to being addicted to healthy things and heal my brain. It’s a long road ahead and I’ve been down in many times in the past 15 years. But I always feel better taking the sober path when the honeymoon phase ends. That phase gets shorter and shorter with each relapse and wd gets harder and harder.

Sorry for the rant just wanted to get it off my chest as I’ve been telling everyone here how awesome sr is and trying to help them get helper meds etc. I’m weak and currently a failure but I believe there’s still hope for me as long as this shit stays off the shelves.

Is this the easiest way to go? I live in Florida where they banned 7oh. Many times I binged and quit 7oh using a fast suboxone taper or using sr17018.

Now I’ve been taking these hyroxi mita tabs. I was up to 3 packs a day. Tapered down to 1 but felt shitty. I’m on about 8 a day now.

I have everything possible in my disposal to get off. Vitamin c, black seed oil, mag glyc, agmat sulf, benzos, sr and subs.

I tried to get off these the same way as the 7oh with subs and sr17 2 diff times and it just didn’t work. Like everyone else I’m a huge pussy when it comes to wd that’s why I always used subs after 7oh bc it’s mainly a painless transition.

I bought a ton of 7oh so I’m gonna try and start taking that this week and do a fast taper on the hyroxi tabs. Once I get to no hyroxi I’m gonna let myself go into 7oh withdrawal, usually just wake up the next morning in wd with that shit.

Question is has anyone done with with mgm, dhm etc and did it work? Wojkd it be better to preload sr17 with the mgm and 7oh and skip the subs?

Thanks in advance! I have a baby coming any day so I’m super anxious and don’t want to be addicted to this shit any longer.

So a lot of people said they used pseudo when trying to quit mgm.

I haven’t taken mgm since 6pm last night.

At 4pm today I took 25mg pseudo

Almost immediately I started yawning and getting tingles. Like 5 mins after dosing the powder. Then diahrea 5 mins later. I was 100% put into WD from this!

I had to dose mgm and double my prev dose to feel better.

Anyone else have this happen? How can I use pseudo to get off mgm if this happens im super confused

Thanks in advance!

I got hooked on the hyroxi mita tabs about 2.5 months ago. Started at 1/4 tab and I went up to like 8 a day. Im down to around 6 daily. 3x2

I have no clue what’s in these. They cost like $25/pack so spending like $40/day. They’re not enjoyable anymore and just make me tired.

What’s the best way to quit? Should I just taper these? Should I switch to mgm and taper that but I don’t know what mg I’m actually taking or if I’m even on mgm.

I tried sr and it didn’t work for me. I was getting major anxiety in the preload phase and I have no benzos to deal with that.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.