u/Lucky-Passion-3622

the goal is to be as desperate as possible for my wife. like borderline feral. i have found that even with all the training, the mental part of being painfully desperate for her is what makes me finish the fastest.

what i want to know is if ruining is an effective way to work towards this goal while im masturbating on my own, or if i need to just abstain from orgasms all together. i prefer ruining but it doesn’t get me in the head state i want to be in.

i’ve gotten fast times (sub 30 sec) with both methods, but i found i’m more desperate while edging. am i ruining wrong? thoughts?

been seeing that clenching is effective for being a prejac and that it increases sensitivity, but i’ve also seen that anti clenching (relaxing the pelvic muscles as you masturbate) makes the muscles weaker and easier to loose control.

i’ve dabbled in both, but without knowing which one works better, i haven’t really dedicated training to either one because i don’t know which one works better.

does anyone have experience with one or the other? how effective were they? how long until you saw results?