u/somewonimet

I'm 6 months out from 2x300mg. I basically experienced a somewhat compressed version of the typical WD offramp where symptoms were more severe than they needed to be but shorter in duration. I personally would not recommend it to anyone else, shorter was still like 3-5 weeks per phase and double the intensity. There was a month where I barely moved each day because I was the guy in KIDS singing "I have no legs".

I've just come through the sleep deprivation stage which, for me, was like 3 weeks of 2-5 hours of nightmare madness sleep per night. I was seeing ghosts at the end of it and I'm glad that's over. Any symptoms I felt for the week or so afterwards I sort of blamed on that phase, as I caught up on sleep

But now, I'm experiencing daily'ish headaches. This is not normal for me (normal me or subox/sublo me). Normally if I have a headache I take advil or tylenol and it is gone in 30 minutes. This is not that. Nothing is helping and I'm finding these headaches are kind of a bitch to deal with. They feel like my brain hurts - it's hard to describe - and it's worse than a normal headache.

I don't have problems with Kratom and I've tried taking a ½-1 gram of powder to combat and nothing. 3 advils, nothing. 7 clears it but that's not something I am open to being a solution; I only take that when there's some sort of social situation I can't skip and I'm having a bad (ie WD) day.

I meditate a couple times a week, eat healthy, exercise, drink lots of water, hikes, yada yada. Anyone have any ideas or experience with these?

Context: after a couple years on fent, I was on Suboxone for 2’ish years, one of which was at 24mg/day and (after I tapered down) the other at either 4 or 8mg per day.

I had 2x 300mg and then jumped. The doctors say — and I agree — that I’ve probably made it harder on myself without the 100’s but I’m 6 months out and it is what it is.

It’s hard to find much data on 2x300.

In my experience, months 3-4 were ROUGH. I probably would have gotten another shot had I the wherewithal to organize and deal with it at the time. Month 5 was better so far, there were actual good days intermixed with the bad.

But month 6 has been rude; major sleep disturbances trickle down to effect [name-a-thing]. I’m so tired all the time, I’m seeing ghosts. I’ve never slept well in my entire life — was definitely a major draw of opiates — and I am prescribed a sleep regiment that would put a small village asleep. That + not actually sleeping is a bad recipe.

The thing is, if there is one piece of statistical consensus in these forums it is that people overwhelmingly cite “sleep disturbance” as the last major WD before most say they began moving into PAWS. Maybe because just 2x300mg, it shortens the timeline a bit?

If that is the case, I can roll with this. But just curious if anyone has any referential experience to share.