u/MorningIndependent41

What is mda come down like? I’ve done mdma maybe 5 or 6 times and never got a come down. I hadn’t done in it in a little over a year but did mda instead for the first time 5 days ago. Had like 100mg then another 50 some time into it. Didn’t have a roll like mdma at all. Thought it might not be from doing enough to cause a full roll, I only had the mdma type roll at 200-300mg mdma. Still had fun tho from the mda, just wasn’t even close to as euphoric and things didn’t feel good on my body like mdma. But music sounded nice and wasn’t anxious. Planned to have it again probably either tn, tomorrow or the next night. And then wouldn’t have it for well over 3 months again.

But the day after was just so tired it was absurd. Just like so insanely lethargic. Was pretty tired the 2 days after that too. I quit kratom recently too and usually that causes bad lethargy so looking back I was blaming the lethargy on the kratom anything after the first day. Cause I was expecting more of a depressive come down like people talk about with mdma but is it more just intense lethargy? And then maybe on the 3rd day of lethargy I craved with the kratom and had some opi and it helped with the back pain but still felt bad and mentally weird. Which I thought was odd but didn’t think it could’ve had anything to do with the mda days later until thinking about it rn. What’s mda comedown for yall? I never got any bad lethargy with the mdma, but never got the depression either even from higher doses.

And yes I’m aware not to do mdma more often than every 3ish months. Only was planning to break the rule here cause I had a good opportunity to use it over the next couple days that I’m not gonna have for probably over a year after. But if it’s gonna bring back lethargy like how it was last week then nah I’ll just pass it up. I’d rather just not have it and not worry about all that. But I just don’t know if I was experiencing the wd or maybe a combination of the 2.

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Also ik this is the mdma sub not mda but I crossposted over there and just wanted to get more replies cause ik there must be a good amount of mda user here too.

Had 20 mg ir adderall 7 hours ago gonna have some 2c-b in like an hour or 2 with some dissos. Might have a pregabalin or 2 beforehand to help with my hr feeling slightly increased from the adderall. I don’t take adderall every day just occasionally if I need it (I have a friend that frequently gives me 1 or 2 per week and I’ll give him something in return). I’m trying to look and most people say it’s fine to take them at the same time which I’m not sure I’d wanna do lol. But as long as it’s not gonna make me feel super high hr and bad. It was only 20 mg and it was a while ago at this point.

So this is gonna sound like a really weird scenario. It’s just all kinds of weird stuff. So anyways I’ve been addicted to 7 and kratom for 3 years and have dabbled in other opiates/opioids too in that time even tho it’s difficult too because of how 7oh sticks to the receptor site making it hard to get the high from other opiates if you’ve taken 7 recently. I had a high tolerance to 7 about 200ish per day with about 20g kratom. And this was spread between 2 doses.

Anyways I planned to quit kratom/7 starting this week and other opis for good. But I got a nice bag of odsmt bc it wanted to get a nice buzz before I made the quit. But I had to essentially quit 7oh first bc I tried odsmt and it didn’t work. So I used sr for about a week until I ran out then used the odsmt too. But in that time a vendor I talked with reached out and ended up getting me a 1g #4 cause I wanted to try h before being done with opis (ik really dumb idea). It was supposed to come essentially a week or 2 ago so I would have a little then quit as planned. But I came extra late so I just got it today.

Been 7 days since the last time I took sr and about 2 weeks since I had 7, kratom or odsmt. Like the poor decision maker I am I’ve been using some norflurazepam, a little bit of ethyl flualp, gabapentin, and pregabalin to take the edge off the wd. Along with 3-me-pcp and some other dissos but I’m a regular user of those before quitting. The gaba substances not so much really only in times of quitting 7oh or odsmt or occasional use.

But today I feel like shit it’s day 7 since last sr but idk I just feel so fucking drained today as well as the past few days. The first 2 days sucked then I was kinda fine now I feel like dead meat. Just so lethargic my it feels like I can barely move to get a drink of water. But then I checked the mail and the h was here. And I was thinking of just not doing it or leaving it for when I was fully detoxed but I felt so shit I decided to have a little. I did a 1mg test. Then snorted 20mg. Felt a little warm and good and my back pain went away. Then had another 30ish mg snorted. But then I just idk didn’t really feel like I expected to. I didn’t feel euphoric but just like bad histamine reaction really itchy and hot and dehydrated. Tomorrow I’m leaving for a trip but rn I’m just up and I can’t sleep. Idk I’m super fucking congested so maybe the h was wasted bc it couldn’t absorb internasally?

Or when I was doing it maybe I accidentally snorted a little shard of disso from the other day? Bc I just feel like super bad histamine reaction + extremely dissociated like I had a bunch of o-pce and it won’t wear off. Or like the feeling you get after binging dissos and you’re hyper stimulated idk. Maybe I took gaba/pregabalin or norflurazapam too long and got a mild physical dependence and this is the wd. But I just feel like shit rn. In bed itchy and dissociated. My heart is beating kinda fast. I’ve gotta resting hr of about 96. Maybe it’s partly from being mentally stressed. I’ve gotta be up in 8 hours for a long drive but like I’m just kinda tweaking. Idk what to do. Should I take a little benzo to calm down. Maybe my h was bad. My vendor sent me a picture of a test strip clearing negative for zenes and fent. And it looks like #4. Maybe the dissos have caught up to me idk. I don’t want to take benzos ncause obviously h + benzos are bad combo. I had about 2 mg norflurazapam today and that was it. I had 2 400mg gabapentins in the last hour or 2 just cause I’m anxious but I don’t wanna take more.

I’m sorry maybe this isn’t the right place for this. I guess I’m just making poor decisions and not handling my shit right. Or maybe I pushed myself way too hard today. I was feeling so lethargic but I just pushed through and took care of a ton of shit (packed my bags for my trip, fixed the bulb in my car, cleaned my room, and took care of myself better than I have since I stopped the sr). Idk guess imma just take 1 more gabapentin hydrate and try and go to sleep. At least my back doesn’t hurt anymore that’s a plus. I guess I’ll take some magnesium glycinate and just try to breathe and get some sleep.

So I have a bunch of 4mg norflurazepam pellets I got a few days ago I’ve only been taking like 1/4 or 1/2 of a pellet at a time cause I’ve been worried about being messed up for days. I feel like I’ve gotten best effects from them a couple hours later and that just kinda plateaus eventually. But I’ve maybe taken 2 or so pellets over the last 48-72 hours and have never really felt messed up.

I’m just kinda confused about the come up times and the how long it seems to last for most people. I took 2 pellets (8mg) 2 hours ago. Don’t feel barred out at all. Am I still coming up or do I just not notice it? What other people who have used this check could you potentially lay out a come up time, a peak, and how long you truly end up feeling it for.

Ik that no one can say for sure but how does 7oh tolerance translate to o-dsmt tolerance or other opiate/opiod tolerance as it’s a partial against and had a ceiling effect. I take that 100mg 7oh with 6g of kratom every 12 hours. So 200mg 7oh per day and 12g kratom leaf per day.

Just got a g of o-dsmt. Haven’t had it in 4 years. That was before I had experienced any kind of physical dependence or addiction issues with kratom or 7oh. I see that 100mg is considered a strong dose. I remember taking that years ago with no tolerance and getting pretty high. Will I have to get 200 or 300mg to get a solid high? Anyone that’s been addicted to 7oh and had other opiates or opioids during that dependence how did it affect your tolerance to them? Did you need to take massively more than the standard dose? I only have a g so I don’t wanna waste any.