u/Osaka2330

im in my early 20s, skinny, and im a model. i’d say im more attractive than the average person. i do have small boobs and small butt tho lol. not to boast just an observation that i never bring up men.

anyways, every single SD ive talked to, gone on dates with and had arrangements with have when i was 18 to 23 (started way too young) have always mentioned their ex.
not only that but mentioning how they’ve dated supermodels, actresses, most beautiful women ever.

its weird cuz the only question rly i ask abt their ex is “how did ur previous arrangement work”. even if i don’t ask that, they talk abt their exes being like drop dead gorgeous and way more attractive than me. guys rarely compliment me and if they do once in a while its usually in an angry possessive way - its so fuckign weird.

there r gorgeous women everywhere.
im not bothered, im just confused as to why they do that. its like, are they trying to humble me? im very confused. SD and SB pls help me understand.

i just found out my sd is married.. after i said in my last post that he isn’t. he showed no signs of being married; we could meet last minute, overnight stays, text etc. obviously there’s pros to it now.

but the main reason i don’t like married sd is because their wife can find out one day and either go mad (understandably) and then sd will ghost or disappear.

this has happened to me before. i invest my time and energy into building this perfect arrangement and he disappears cuz his wife finds out.

that’s why i specifically searched for a non married sd and asked him multiple times at the start if he was. he said no and he’s never wanted to get married or have kids (both huge fat lies).

it isn’t that being married is 100% a big no, but id rather want you to tell me so i can extra extra cautious. tbh i should already be extra extra cautious but i guess i ended up being a bit too emotional.

i genuinely had a good thing going with this sd. he was literally perfect. and the thing is he doesn’t know i know! his phone call was connected to the car for a few seconds when he stepped out and i heard clearly his wife.

i should stop being naive and assume every sd is married cuz they most likely are. and as of now, ive decided to go on a break with him… not sure how to proceed cuz the money was good lol.

talking to pots over last few years, most if not all mentioned raw sex and how their previous were ok wit that.

not only that but other shit like how girls r okay with low PPM/allowance, girls not asking for money or gifts etc.

the only guy that hasn’t bullshitted was a short term sd. he was actually the youngest out of all the men ive engaged with (mid 30s). we used condoms and he never guilt tripped otherwise. he gave what we agreed on. he never thought it was transactional. there was never any drama.

all the other men were 45+. starts off good then then they are wanting raw sex, lower ppm because he feels it’s transactional, constant drama and neediness. block, block and BLOCK.

maybe it’s cuz im younger and get told im innocent dumb naive and these guys r trying to gaslight me into thinking its the norm. but are u guys GENUINELY having raw sex? if so, why? (genuine question)…

he isn’t married so no need to be discreet. his bday is coming up soon!!!
he does so much for me but not sure what to get him, he’s a Pokémon and dbz fan.

thinking of a cologne and something Pokémon related. LET ME KNOW!!! 🩷

as the title suggests, how can i (sb in 20s) benefit from my sr with my sd (40s and successful) other than the obvious cash?

for instance, im going to ask him to buy me some gold and teach me abt investing.

e.g asking SD for investing or real estate advice, networking etc.

sds and sbs, let me know!

edit: I’m in uk for ref

by friends i mean ur close group of friends. im a sb and i have a close group of childhood friends but only one knows. im rly worried abt telling them- i wanna tell them so i can be safe + they can look out for me in case smth happens.
more for SBs but SDs welcome to answer.

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yes or no?

my close group of childhood besties. only 1 of them knows. the rest don’t- im not super duper close to them as much cuz i feel like i have too many secrets.

sds, what is the difference between sbs in 2016 vs 2026?
style wise, personality wise, bowl, etc.
(or the difference between millennial sbs vs gen z sbs)

a sd told me there’s less mystery now because gen z/sbs of 2026 texting culture + all use the same vocabulary/info from tiktok.

(or the difference between millennial sbs vs gen z sbs)

also to sbs, how were sds like in 2016 vs 2026?

my (exclusive) sd is always on time/early except once. this is my first serious sr.

for 2 hrs, it was radio silent. i waited for those 2 hrs cuz i was concerned he got into an accident or smth.

i texted and called him multiple times. honestly feel like a loser.

then he texted me (didn’t even call me), said he was tired and fell asleep whilst on the way.

he still wanted to meet but i already went home.

he isn’t married either and said he was visiting his friend last night.

how many times would u let ur sb/sd be late?

just a thought

when i think of sugar babies, i think of a beautiful baddie with glam makeup in a beautiful dress, heels, and a designer bag.

not being a pick me. but i look innocent and dress modesty/boring. i barely wear makeup. i look like a 16 year old asian geek who never talked in class. like you’d never expect me to be this wild girl.

ive met 4 SDs and they’ve all sort of said the same things. how they like im natural no makeup. 🙄 one said i remind him of his school crush when he was a kid. obv i know men just say whatever.

when im with older men, i don’t get mistaken as a sugar baby. i get mistaken as his daughter or adopted daughter.

i worried that sugar daddies would hate this and think its low effort. but the SD im seeing right now does not care. he’s mostly seen me in sweatpants and no makeup eating potato chips lol. he says he loves it.

feel like im not utilising my funds and living a luxurious life at all too. i use £3 shampoo and £2 face wash. my hair dryer is older than me. i only have 1 designer bag which is vintage. i do love perfumes tho lol.

long story short i fell into deep depression. lost my creativity, spark, and energy years ago. i just wanna be a high end baddie. and stop being so scarce. 😭

question to you guys:
SB, what is your style like? is it different when you’re around your SD? how did you find your style? are you luxurious? does being a sb inspire ur style?

SD, how does your SB dress like? what style do you like?

thanks guys ❤️

TMI but i stayed overnight with my sd and omfg i needed to sh*t so badly during sex.

thankfully the sd im seeing goes out to smoke a few times so i just run to the toilet lol and spray the shit out of it.

genuine question, if ur spending all day together + shopping + hotel/staying at his- HOW TF do u shit. how do u do it secretly so he won’t be disgusted.

i know it’s an natural thing and i know it’s a silly question. i guess with my prev exes my age it would just be a funny silly thing. but im sure my sd who thinks im this perfect doll does not want to hear abt it at all.

so SB how do you? where?

SD is it an awkward convo that you’d rather not talk abt? how should we tell u?

do you think a guy with money would take better financial care of his girlfriend or his sugar baby?

for ref, ive been seeing a POT who’s 20+ years older than me. he said he would make me his spoiled gf with a low XXXX allowance + shopping sprees + his cc.

but i would have to be exclusive, text everyday, and see him when we’re both free (unlike a fixed amt of times a month). like a normal relationship.

im just wondering, is it safer for me to just see him a fixed amt of times for higher ppm. or should i be his exclusive SB.

unfortunately ive been acting like his gf because i do think hes lovely and sweet. so it might be hard to backtrack… help.

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ive had a few POTs talking abt how they’ve met 10/10 supermodel girls on this site before who’ve never asked them for money or gifts / PPM / spoiled gf situation. basically to guilt trip me for what im asking for (less than 4 figures PPM).

im in my early 20s. im a model. these guys r 40+ and not my type at all. not sure why they’re on here and not on tinder. im genuinely asking, are there any SB who genueinly don’t ask for money and looking for be a spoiled gf. if so why r u on there?

EDIT: this site meaning SA. these guys r basically saying girls on here hotter and younger supermodel beauty r okay with being a spoiled gf. as in going on dates, 5 star hotels, trips but no actual PPM or allowance. just spoiled gf. which is confusing to me cuz why r u on here then?

why do they hate the term sugar baby and constantly say spoiled gf instead.

im in my early 20s, SD in his mid 30s. ive known him for a few years but time was never right. we’ve decided to see each again consistently (as in 1-3 times a month lol).

he’s always travelling and busy. he only texts me when he wants to hookup. we meet at his place or a hotel. the convo is good. we talk abt our life, family, travels etc. he says he feels like he’s catching up with an old friend. then we get intimate. he leaves me £€$€.

we leave. we don’t text each other. he texts me first when he’s back or wants to hookup. im not complaining. he’s never done or said anything weird these past few years. i was emotional/attached at the start but ive let go.

i asked him why not just hire an escort because im sure its more convenient as its cheaper abroad and im not always free. he said it’s because he wants something emotional. but we’re just meeting like an escort and client. we’ve gone on one normal date with no sex once. there’s nothing emotional about that or our relationship?

what we are. SD SB? am i a call girl? FWB but paid?

do these “relationships” last long? i want to continue seeing him long term (it’s been 3-4 years already). it’s low effort and drama free. why would he end it?

should i initiate text first? should i randomly text him some pics of me or a sweet message time to time?

do any of you guys have this sort of arrangement?

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im recently seeing this SD. we’ve known each other for a while but it just wasn’t the right time.

im talkative. i ask questions out of genuine curiousity and interest in getting to know someone. im self aware so i do know when im being too much.

we met, i tried to do small talk, he just wanted sex and he left. I felt like a prostitute. it feels weird because we have met for dates with no sex and he treats me like his gf but then other day we met for purely sex.

he said afterwards that i talk too much and ask too many questions. these questions being about his past SB arrangements, his travels, small talk etc. i didn’t think that was too invading.

he says he wants something emotional but he clearly does not. he doesn’t text or call. we talk quite well in person but him recently saying im emotional and talkative made me feel like ??? Oh… why would he only say it now.

i like him. he’s younger than most other SD and hes kind. he said next time we will go out on a date instead. but I don’t know if I can’t not fall for him.

i saw an older POT SD the other day. he’s nice and there’s some emotional connection but im more physically attracted to the first guy.

i know the best advice is to stop seeing him. but he’s one of the SDs I’ve met who are hygienic, and generous, and that im physically attracted to. i have a scarce mindset.

how do i stop being so annoying? how do i deattach my emotions? how do i look past physical attraction? I just need general advice on this situation. im a lover girl at heart who’s lonely.

but it truly feels like a situationship but with 💸.

hi!!

I’m in my early 20s.

im talking to this guy who’s in his late 40s. we’re going to meet next week. he’s offered me a range for PPM. not sure why he’d give me a range lol cause obv I’ll want the max.

how do I negotiate higher? should I even negotiate? should I discuss in person or in real life? to SDs, how would u like a SB to negotiate?