u/hound_dog69

So I was leaving my favorite spa after another fun time. I usually park a little distance from the spa, and as I am walking to my car I see this guy who appears to be heading directly toward the spa door. The clincher is that he was looking around like he was at the top of the FBI's 10 most wanted list at a police convention. He was more obvious than a giant turd in a punchbowl.

This goes back to something I say here all too often. Know and understand the risks as they apply to your situation. You can't get arrested for walking into a spa. If a spa is too hot for some reason, and someone could recognize you, find another location, or whatever he had going on. If it makes you that nervous, find another venue that's more private.

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I'll try to keep this on point so that it doesn't devolve. I am posting this separately so that it's not felt as being directed at anyone in particular, as some of these things are not uncommon.

This is a sub about associating with sex workers with the intent of sexual contact. We're adults, and with that:

• Each individual should educate themself about the risks of different STDs, and make adult choices. Make choices you can live with. I said I wasn't going to call someone out, but I liked the post about the guy keeping his underwear on, before donning a cover for L3. He knew his concerns and did something that worked for him. That's creative problem solving I can support.
• Similarly, research and own the the risks of protecting your personal information, and legal risks, as is appropriate for your personal situation. None of us are perfect, have made mistakes and have learned from personal experience, or the experiences of others. This forum allows us to share that, so hopefully others have fewer hard knocks, but we still need to own our part in securing our personal lives from any adverse effects from these activities.
• I don't care, personally, if you want to use proper names for body parts or colloquial terms (breasts, vagina, tits, pussy, etc,), but can we own who we are and what we're doing and avoid using childish terms that adults might use with a child?
• These ladies, or men, are sex workers. They have sex. Often a lot, and often with someone just before, and/or right after you. It's what they do, hopefully their choice. If you're going to be squeamish about sloppy seconds, or that fat dude that was just sweating all over your MT 15 minutes ago or whatever, maybe this isn't the right activity for you, or the right venue. Maybe something like a sugar-baby would be a better choice.
• Learn to use the internet to search and find the information you want or need. Using a search engine to search for "asian erotic massage spa near nameyourtown," is not hard. Similarly, asking someone to DM you about a spa is just dumb. We mostly have no idea where anyone is. If you're in OK, and I tell you about a spa I went to in FL, are you really going to go all the way to FL hoping to see the same lady and get the same service?
• Speaking of, every MT and every interaction with a customer is different. Sometimes the MTs are tired or had a bad day. The good ones are like pro athletes and can always hit that serve or deliver that pitch, or whatever. Most are not like that and have good and bad days. My session is mine, and yours is yours. The rule of YMMV exists for a reason, and always applies.
• This one is tough. Some guys like the chase, and the process of getting extra services from legit or semi-legit locations. To each there own. Where I see issues is asking how to get an MT to do something sexual that she didn't do. The MT is a human with their own agency. Manipulating someone to do something they don't want to do is wrong. Some "legit" MTs need more time to generate trust, even when there are "signals". IMO, all the general comments are fine (loose draping, etc etc), but sometimes comments move into creepy territory. Every MT is a unique person, and each situation is unique. Getting extras from a semi/legit MT takes time and interpersonal skills that you can only get from practice, not from reading stuff here.
• Speaking of signals, non-signals can begin to look like signals when you're looking for signals.

I am sure there are other things I could go on about and I am certainly not the end-all font of wisdom on spas, AMPs, etc. Flame me or add your two cents, or ignore.

Now go out and have some fun.

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I happened to be on the road today, and going through an area where a supposedly infamous MT works, so I checked another website for information, and it looked like she was supposed to be working. I researched and found two places in the area, reached out and received a very helpful comment from another user.

I switched to his recommendation and holy crapola, what a time! AMP session and AMP rates, but it rivaled many of the better KAAMP sessions I have had.

A cute and relatively young looking (maybe 30 something) opened the door and led me to the room, where she proceeded to shoved her tongue down my throat as she grabbed my junk. I handed her the HF and her tip, and she left the room briefly as I got undressed. When she returned she knelt down and engulfed my cock, backing me onto a chair as she did this for a good five minutes as I played with her decently sized, but not well-done, man-mades.

She took a breather to lube up my hand, and encouraged me to play with her as she continued sucking. I finally had her get on the table so that I could DATY, and she took my tongue and fingers until I had my fill and needed to slide myself into her well-lubed pussy. I was having the time of my life until I needed a break, so she pulled the cover off and said she would finish me with her mouth.

We got into a 69, where she proceeded to swallow me whole as I licked her pussy, until she reached back and lubed her ass. I didn't need an invitation and added fingers to her pussy and ass as I continued licking her clit, until I finished in her mouth. She sat up with a full mouth and showed me it all as she let if drip into her hand.

We finished with her cleaning me up in the shower and more BJ in the shower.

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Just wondering with the recent post, about what would clearly be an illegal payment, if there should be a rule encompassing such things. It could get somewhat squishy, so just throwing that out there. The action described would be clearly illegal... kind of a rule #4 & #9 variation.

Just thinking out loud.
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There are always unspoken rules of the road, so here are a few that are on my mind at the moment.

• The MTs have lives outside the spa. This is why most of them travel, to avoid the possibility of running into someone they know. If they are local, discretion is paramount. If you see an MT you know in the wild, let her have her space. A discrete shared glance is probably OK, from a distance, unless you see her with family, in which case, do your best to avoid any contact.
• There can be drama in the shop between MTs. Especially if one MT is getting all the business. Most shops try to rotate the MTs with the walk-ins, but clients can book a specific MT for an appointment. The job of the spa is to manage/prevent this, but it does happen.
• Going to an L3 shop and only asking, and paying, for a L1 finish can makes the MT unhappy. That takes them out of rotation when they could have had an L3 client and made more money.
• It goes without saying to be clean, polite, etc. That said, if I am going to a place with a table shower, I would be fine coming from work, the gym, etc. as that's life. Just do your best. The MTs are trying to gauge a lot of things, and they do this by your demeanor, and your appearance. Be at ease and they will be at ease.
• This doesn't mean you can't be complimentary or sexual (as long as you know the spa and MT provide the HEM). A hug when greeting, maybe a kiss on the cheek (some will kiss on the lips, but most avoid french kissing) or a little butt squeeze. The degree of the interaction with the MT will depend on the degree of your familiarity/history with the MT.
• They have seen it all, good and bad. Tall/short, fat/skinny, hung like a horse, erectile dysfunction. Don't sweat it.
• This is a job/business. Everyone is handsome and strong, or whatever. It's their job to make you feel special. Enjoy it for what is worth, but don't think they want to date/marry you.

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There is an AAMP that is pretty close to me, but it's generally not quite my cup of tea, but if the lady is decent, it's a pretty good value. My usual AAMP is a long drive, and expensive compared to a typical AMP, and all the AMPs in my usual area are closed thanks to the ICE-men.

So I decided to bite the bullet and hit the local AAMP. There is no massage or pretext. I get undressed, hit the shower real quick to clean up the day's swamp @$$, and back to the room. She gets undressed and is actually quite attractive, but with some extra pounds. She drops to her knees and starts a pretty good BBBJ. After a bit of this she has me get on the bed and she climbs on to resume her BJ, and I ask her for 69.

We're each doing our mutual thing and I eventually erupt, and she doesn't skip a beat. Some MTs will swallow, but normally they would hop off immediately to go spit. This did not happen. Instead, she kept going. At first I thought she was just doing a nice post-nut cool-down, but she kept motoring, and at one point it became clear that she was working to get a second round from me, which was NOT EVER going to happen. Not anymore, at least.After about 5 minutes of this I tapped her butt to let her know she should stop.

We chatted and cuddled for a few minutes before I grabbed another quick shower and headed out a few grams lighter.

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The AAMP I sometimes go to for hotter, younger Korean ladies (compared to a standard AMP) had two ladies advertising a duo, which could also be BB. I've had good and bad threesomes and foursome, professional and civvy, but the BB duo was another bucket list item.

There is no pretense her and they both meet you at the door in lingerie, and immediately start with a three-way DFK, groping, kissing each other etc. We head to the room for more foreplay, undressing and heading to the shower and mouthwash.

Shower is pretty standard, with one lady as there is no room for two. The second lady helps me dry off, and we head back to the bed. Again, lots of kissing, both working on a dual BBBJ, ladies playing with each other, me playing with them, one sitting on my face while the other sucks, then swapping places. It's all rather non-stop, then one lady climbs on while I play with the second, and move through multiple positions with different configurations.

For me, the highlight was having the ladies in 69, while I was going at it doggy, sometimes pulling out of the top lady to let the bottom suck me clean, and back and forth. I was relishing the visuals of slowly pulling out of the top lady as her labia gripped me all the way out. After about 45 minutes of this I was actually starting to have difficulty getting to a finish, so I sat on the edge of the bed and one finished me with CIM as I played with the second.

To say I was completely done is an understatement. They showered me a second time and I staggered back out to my car.

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