u/tumbledownhere

I recently got switched from Valium to Klonopin and my doctor wants me on the disintegrating tablets because I expressed that it takes too long to kick in....

Has anyone here been on the dissolving Klonopin? Is it any better than the regular? Like does it actually kick in faster?

So this is gonna sound wacky and I'm sorry, this IS rambly, but I have a long history with opiates sadly and actually am already on sublocade.

I also have suboxone strips, 7 of the 8mg.

I do absolutely feel the MGM through the sublocade, which is why I used it.

I quit MGM in April successfully with neither assistance except having my sublocade shot, it was grueling, I still got physical withdrawal despite sublocade. I tried a bit of Suboxone but it didn't seem to touch it - I used benzos and slept through it. No, I ***never*** got precipitated withdrawals from getting sublocade shots while taking MGM if anyone is curious at all, seems like they barely affect each other for me.

I have SR set to arrive tomorrow as well, but tablets/a small amount. I have been back on MGM for 2 weeks and a day.

I understand people think it should be a breeze quitting with all this in my system but it was so hard in April and I hate that I relapsed. I take between 120 and 350mg a day of MGM but it's getting too expensive and I'm just too broke to keep it up.

I will run out of MGM tablets tonight, or if I can stretch them, I'll run out tomorrow morning. I have 5 tabs left at 35ish mg each.

I have gabapentin, klonopin, the suboxone strips, other opiates (ODSMT), gonna try and get my hands on some black seed oil, have antidepressants, marijuana edibles which really help the hot/cold for me, etc.....I'm very well stocked, thankfully.

Which is gonna be better for me for minimal physical withdrawal? Suboxone or SR? I've only been using again for 2 weeks if that makes any difference.

I'm terrified of the physical withdrawal, it's a deep rooted thing for me.

I have a a busy 2 days coming up so I need to be able to walk around and function and whatnot.

Which would you go with and why?

Side question feel free to ignore -

And does anyone here know if the SR will affect the Suboxone or sublocade (it's a long lasting shot version of buprenorphine if anyone is wondering)? I can't seem to post in the SR sub so I'm hoping someone here can answer because unfortunately I SUCK at tapering otherwise I would've just tapered off the MGM. I did that in April but it was still grueling but it's too late to buy anymore now and I'm down to 5 tablets to stretch out.

I have SR coming tomorrow, today if I'm lucky. I'm SO so tempted to run to the smoke shop and buy one more box but I just cannot afford it, and really shouldn't. I need to quit this shit for good - I have bills late, I have a field trip tomorrow, I cannot continue like this.

Just venting - I admit I'm scared

Edit 1- I did get some suboxone strips. In the past (I had quit MGM in April but relapsed), the strips didn't help much.....but I'll try if it's better.

Edit - why do people downvote posts like mine when the sub is literally called quit MGM? Most of us aren't casual users. Most of us are fighting a dependency.

So I pretty much stocked up on what I could today (made a bad purchase but I can work with it plus what I've got) - and I have SR otw, scheduled for Thursday-

But I'm just scared I'll blow through what I have before it can even get here and I really can't afford more until next week.

I have support from my husband, it's just scary, you know?

I'm so excited. A little nervous but I'm praying it works like it's supposed to - because I just can't keep doing this anymore.

That's all unless anyone has stories or experiences they'd like to share?

Hi!

I know SS and tablet brands are largely disregarded in comparison to powder, but I know some of us have to rely on them to get by when packages run late. So lately I've been experimenting with various brands and even having trouble finding labs for some because a lot of brands are hiding behind "prop blend" or even "MIT-A" now.

I noticed people are having trouble understanding reading COAs and labs.

Whatever serving suggestion is on the package, is a serving - unless it says a serving is a whole tab, the labs are calculated based on serving suggestion.

For example, Dozo MG-X is a big one - I've read multiple labs and they all say the same thing. 33mg per serving and a lottttt of threads saying that they're only 33mg a tablet.

But a serving is 1/4 a tablet. Multiply by 4 and you've got close to the claim of 125 per tablet, though yes it has MIT in it and other additives.

Same with Sevn Alternatives. That's my go-to SS brand and they hit great for me. I've seen people misread the labs and *come to the conclusion* that for a 5ct 100mg pack, that each tablet is 4.95mg when they're scored to be split into 4, and a serving is 1/4. So again, do the math and it all adds up mostly, give or take a few mg.

Same with the 300mg 10ct Sevn. Each tablet if you scan it says 17ishmg MGM per serving - a serving is half a tablet. So multiply by 2 and you've got more than the advertised 30mg per tablet.

I see so much misconception about this so just giving my two cents. That's all.

Definitely research what you're taking and remember almost every "prop blend" or "MIT-A" has MGM, nowadays pure 7oh is almost impossible to come across unless you buy online and even then powder is not necessarily more pure.

Anyway. Getting off my soap box now. That's all.

I've noticed people get confused between the two brands and it's hard to find an answer so

Hydroxie - says MIT-A on the box, comes in 2ct 5ct and 10ct, a greenish blue box.

Hydroxi - black container, shows the blister tablets and apparently there's a bad batch (204?) going around. Looks like usually 4ct and may say DHM.

That being said. Some labs show that Hydroxie has MGM in them but the official website has removed any mention of MGM as of last month or something like that. They absolutely feel like MGM though. Ran out of my usual Saturday and these have done me just fine since then.

Never seen the other type IRL so never gotten to try them.

Anyone know more about Hydroxie and not hydroxi? Or just talk about the brands here.

Happy mother's day ❤️ Teva brand if anyone's curious

Also took gabapentin, MGM15 so I am feeling absolutely lovely and that was my only wish for mother's day. It's very triggering and there's a lot of trauma around this day, hadn't taken my Valium in days and asked doc to switch me last night and got a yes so here I am!

Everyone have a nice, lovely, safe, comfortable day. 💜

Anyone else experienced this? My tongue feels like I just took menthol.

Just switched at my request from Valium to Klonopin, I'm content. Just took 1mg, hadn't taken any Valium in a few days prior to this.

I remember loving klonopin and feeling honestly stoned on it last time I used it.

My doctor just switched me from Valium to Klonopin and I'm hyped, 3mg a day versus 30mg Valium a day.

Think it'll still affect me nicely? It's mother's day and it's all pretty triggering, though my kids are being sweet so I'm really hoping I'll just feel nice. Haven't taken my Valium in a week or so.

I love the Valium but lately I've been waking up in cold sweats and panicking at night so I'm so grateful.

I was on 30mg a day of Valium and we're moving to 3mg Klonopin a day

I made a post like 2 weeks ago asking how to ask my Dr to switch me so I'm updating I guess and grateful that I get a klonopin script now 😊

My Dr just switched me from 30mg Valium a day to 3mg Klonopin a day and I think I'm done with RC benzos

Bromonordiazepam was honestly my last hope because the RC scene sucks lately but unfortunately I'm getting rebound panic attacks from it. I just wanted one that calms me and gives a mood boost but fuck it if my doctor is willing to go to Klonopin I'm running with it

Bromaz never hit me good like it seems to hit others, I liked clobro but it's getting hard to find.

I genuinely miss the days of etizolam and clonazolam, don't think it'll ever be quite like that again, been in and out of the RC scene since like 2012 and man times have changed

I successfully stopped it a few weeks ago but last Wednesday I started taking it again. Honestly it was more of a binge than anything.

I wanna stop so I'm gonna try tomorrow and see how I feel. I still have total of 600mg and might buy another bottle tomorrow, in case I need to rapid taper and I also have sublocade in my system as well as benzos on hand, gabapentin, plain leaf (tho that never does much for me), edibles which help me lots.

Do you think I'll get bad withdrawals from the week/binge usage? The past three days I've gotten no results from my usage at all and I've gone over 300 the past 2 days to no effects. Starting to think my pills are bunk and I already quit probably.

Last time I'd been using 6/7 days for almost 2 months and the mental was the hardest part but it was still nothing compared to oxy withdrawal or so IMO. I just really wanna be active and comfortable for mother's day.

Edit - Update, I thought I woke up experiencing withdrawals after 16-18 hours without, but it turns out I'm genuinely just sick, lol.

But I think I'll taper just to be safe.

Do you take tolerance breaks? How long does it take for MGM tolerance to drop for you personally?

Anyone else here dabble with MGM or 7oh?

How does mixing it with a benzo go for you?

For me it depends on the quality and dose I've taken, and it depends on the benzo in particular. I've found my prescribed Valium kind of potentiates if it's good quality MGM but other RC benzos kinda dull it. For example I like bromonordiazepam but it definitely dulls the experience MGM for me.

Any experiences?

I used like 150-380mg a day for 2 months on and off and went through a successful rapid taper a few weeks ago.

I started using MGM again last Wednesday and don't plan on stopping until Monday at least, but I am switching to tabs to help lower the impact. I'm on sublocade and prescribed benzos as well as access to other comfort meds if needed.

How long did you use before withdrawal, and what do/did you use to get through it? Just wanna hear stories

It's weird because I don't get headaches on powder but I get headaches with the tabs unless I hydrate like a MFer.

I also get the frequent urination but I feel like that's obviously because I'm chugging water, at least partly. It makes me go so often even when hydrated.

What side effects does MGM give you?

Just curious. My friend got 5 grams of SR but it seems a little complicated and I've heard that it can permanently affect your opiate receptors?

I've been in the RC scene for over a decade on off, so I understand part of the thing about RCs is not knowing how they affect us long term but I would ***love*** to hear stories or experiences and if it's worth it vs, say, subs and other taper methods. Any input?

I've only been using MGM again for a week after a successful stop and break of 3ish weeks, but I'm sure I'll experience some WDs when I quit next week. I'm on sublocade so that helps and have access to strips and plenty of benzos, so I'm not too scared but I'm REALLY curious about this SR chemical.

EDIT - I'm not ordering it or looking to use SR myself, I'm just genuinely curious how people's experiences go.

NGL the idea of my opiate tolerance getting lowered is sweet, but I was mainly curious to hear how others did with SR because I'm fascinated by the chemistry behind all this.