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It’s been like 85 degrees outside. Has anyone else accidentally exposed their testosterone to high temps? How can I tell if it’s still good?

What is still available. Relapsed at the best possible time.

Wtf is in this shit. Barely got high off Raw. Maybe a little sleepy. Last time I had taken suboxone was 48 hours prior. Any thoughts?

How long will it take to clear my system. No use prior for years.

Let me know y’all experiences.

Make sure to change your habits now mgm and 7 is going to be reclassified as schedule 1. Getting a charge dealing w schedule 1 is equivalent to having your dik slapped with a Louisville slugger.

Don’t drive around w it. Don’t drive on it. Don’t have it in multiple containers (very important because most people who don’t divide their doses at home ride around with a scale).

What I am saying is a lot of users, including myself, on a daily basis would have all the elements of selling/trafficking on their person/in their car.

If you gotta ride around with it have a dose in a pill and pop it and drop it in your coffee if you get pulled over or something.

Just be careful and be mindful of risks. Make it a habit now I’d say.

Just a couple of things he mentioned I feel like are relevant to this community and users/abusers/those looking to get off synthetic kratom products.

1. 90 percent of his patients in the last 3 months are for 7oh misuse.

2. There is a really high rate of patients coming in and finding out that only 16-24 hours of waiting from last dose to suboxone induction is necessary to stop the withdrawal symptoms.

3. There is also a lot of frequent flyers who come in for a week to help with withdrawal symptoms and don’t come back for follow up appointment and continuation the next week. Instead coming back a month or two later with the same issues.

4. The two largest culprits for patients wanting to quit is A: financial instability and B: Very uncomfortable withdrawal symptoms.

5. Induce low and slow start with 1mg. If symptoms get better go ahead and start taking more. If symptoms get worse STOP and retry in 6 hours with that same small dose.

6. With MGM he said all the same apply but he recommended waiting 30-42 hours before taking that 1mg Suboxone dose.

7. He noted to completely get rid of withdrawal symptoms a lot of patients claimed they needed to take 24 MG for the first couple of days to completely kill the withdrawals.

8. After taking the strip wait an hour rinse mouth with water and then brush teeth. (Very important) suboxone will fuck your teeth up it’s proven.

I’ve been a patient for 6 years. Started with H spent 6 months on the strips then transitioned to Subblocade to get off.

I’ve now restarted and it’s working great for MGM withdrawal symptoms. Spent 15 minutes because I am a return patient. Last week when I went in it only took 15 minutes as well. First trip left with clonidine/hydroxyzine/gabapentin and 8x8mg strips of Suboxone. When I’m ready to get off I’ll do the Subblocade route again.

Just wanted to relay what I heard from him to others incase they are looking @options for quitting synthetic kratom products and wanted more information. Don’t be ashamed for doing something to help yourself.

Can anyone explain why or the mechanism to how it works??

Just one day only take 100mg. I just stopped 800mg IV daily a few days ago and it’s holding me for 24 hours. From 100 to 50 will not hold me but I plan to taper from 100-90-80-70-60-50 induce SR on the 70mg day and 60mg day and drop and then switch to 300mg SR a day. I plan on going from 100 to 50 in a week and then sr full doses and see how much mgm will be needed in 10mg increments if I am too uncomfortable.

At these super high ass mgm doses it was in my opinion just an odd sleeping sensation I was fond of not a lot of euphoria although up awakening the first 100mg dose would be nice.

When I used to wait on packs in the mail I’d go grab a 4 pack of 100mg and I recall it holding me for a full day. There is no need to taper from high ass doses and taking weeks to get to 100. I feel like this probably holds true for others as 3 people in my circle are experiencing the same thing when I tell them about it.

Also SR is NOT effective for mgm at high doses. I doubt it’s even going to do to much at 50mg but this is my plan to get off this shit quickly with mild discomfort ~4-5 on withdrawal scale.

TLDR FOLKS WITH HIGH DAILY MGM CONSUMPTION JUST TRY TAKING 100mg for the day IT HAS A GOOD CHANCE OF HOLDING YOU DESPITE WHAT YOU THINK.

Can I please get any and all experiences from those dealing with probation or treatment court / drug court.

How long is it taking you all to clear a KRA drug screen AKA MIT drug screen.

I have a strong feeling it’s going to be added to standard probation drug screens in the future and I am curious how long it is taking normal and heavy users of 7 OH / MGM to clear UAs.

All I have been able to find is the standard 7 days up to 14 days for chronic users on rehab webpages but I have read on a few Reddit comments of people taking 21 or 33 days to clear or get a faint line with heavier use.

Allegedly it’s fat soluble to a degree. I’d imagine eating 40 grams of leaf material is leading to the extremely long timeframes for some individuals vs someone who is just taking extracts.

Would love to get more information on this any comments are greatly appreciated.

Thanks all

I’m getting differing opinions/answers on it. Anywhere from 9 days to a month. Can anyone give me more concrete info on how long I am going to be testing positive for when using 100mg a day for a month or so. Thanks.

Currently on 150mg morning. 150mg 8 hours later. 150mg bed time. I have 3000mg 99% pow and ~ 2500mg SR. Can someone create me a plan. Morning dose is my joy. Have read people going from 300mg/day tapering quickly down. It’s the smaller Amounts that start to become an issue.

Today I’ve taken my three doses in addition to 50mg sr w each dose. How should I approach this. Want to completely eliminate use. Have dropped other much stronger opiates before in the past. Work 12 hours shifts so I have something to occupy my mind.

No need to explain how I got to the dosage I am at, it happens. Does this come off as too agressive? Any tips pointers? Instead of 3x dosing a day for the Sr maybe run it 4x. Let me know. Much appreciated. I usually knucklehead the shit and go 48 hours without doing and eat 24 mg suboxone and quick 7 day taper but then I don’t wanna stay on it.

Pretty excited to see how much the SR is gonna help out.

May 23 425mg max: last day before committing to taper / packs just landed so I went a lil overboard usually run 250-300mg a day. Ideal plan for the day is twice daily upon waking and 4 or so hours before I go to sleep.

May 23 425mg max:
09:30 100mg BAE
12:30 175 HUBSALT
16:30 50 RJ FB
21:30 100 RJ FB
Total: 425mg

May 24 300mg max:
07:45 100mg BAE
13:30 100mg HUBSALT + 50 MG SR
End of day 22:00-23:00 50mg RJ FB + 50mg SR

May 25 200mg max:
Wake up 100mg RJ FB +50mg SR
6 hours 50mg HUBSALT + 50mg SR
6 hours 50mg HUBSALT + 50MG SR

May 26 150mg max:
Wake up 75mg HUBSALT + 50mg SR
8 hours later 50mg HUBSALT + 50mg SR
Bed NO NIGHT DOSE MGM + 50mg SR

May 27 75mg max:
Wake up 50mg HUBSALT + 50MG SR
8 hours later 25 HUBSALT + 50MG SR
Bed 50 MG SR

May 28 50mg max:
Wake up 25mg HUBSALT + 50mg SR
8 hours later 25 MG HUBSALT + 50mg SR
Bed 50mg SR

May 29 40mg max:
25mg HUBSALT + 50mg SR
8 hours later 15MG HUBSALT + 50MG SR
Bed 50 MG SR

May 30th 30mg max
30mg HUBSALT + 50 MG SR
8 hours later 50 MG SR
BED 50mg SR

MAY OK 31st BEGIN SR TAPER EVALUATE HOW I FEEL CONSDERING WORK OBLIGATIONS
15 MG HUBSALT + 50 MG SR
8 hours later 50 mg SR
Bed 25mg SR

June 1
Wake up 40MG SR
8 hours later 40MG SR
Bed 40 MG SR

June 2nd
30/30/30 SR

June 3rd
20/20/20 SR

June 4th
10/10/10 SR

June 5th
Jump or 10/X/10 and go by feeling until ready.

Total SR ~ 1500 Total MGM ~ 1500

The naturol melatonin tabs that are sold in purple bottles at Costco. I love the flavor of these things so much that I’ll still eat it even if I know I’m not gonna have a hard time falling asleep:

Other flavors I would be interested in are TANG, flinstone vitamin, marzipan, and finally mangosteen.

Any information is greatly appreciated 🙏

Do your best to avoid these as you will notice over the course of a week what seemed to be amazing and refreshing will soon turn in to a nightmare. you will grow dependent on the Emily and it will make it impossible to feel anything from 7. Leading me to not feel 7 OH at all. The 10 percent ratio they are putting in there is enough to cause this.

I found this out today waking up with a total of 10 hours of abstinence I took a single 100mg 7oh tablet that also contains ~ 10mg Emily. It barely took me out of withdrawal. Went and bought a 20mg Emily tab and I’m feeling it pretty strong, the 7oh cannot outcompete the emgee.