r/7_hydroxymitragynine

trying to find the best deal for decent tabs as im sure everyone is, has anyone tried 7ohplus’s tabs? are they good?

Welp everybody. Was supposed to be done with everything and starting my taper but I couldn't resist picking up a bunch of powder on sale.

Will I be able to just start using mgeem in replace of my usual 7 dose? I have like 5 doses of 7 left and now probably at least a month worth of mgeem. Am I gonna be alright or is there going to be any weird withdrawal issues. The 15 should cover all my bases from here on out right?? I really can't afford to put in any more orders for 7.

Please lemme know for those that have any experience on the situation....

Thank you!

Update:

So I decided to get this because.. . I accidently bought opias from kures that contained MGeeM... Apparently it's a blend with 7oh and 40mg mgeem a tab. I realized my 7 dose wasn't hitting anymore and knew the doom was upon me so slickly I just got my order in today as I ate the last one last night....

As soon as I took the powder today for the first time I felt unwell and NOT GOOD... However, when I ate 1/4 of my usual 7 dose 30 minutes later, I am now at a point where I am cozy enough to want to just close my eyes and not look at my phone...I think the MGM+7 blend together actually did cause a bit of cross-withdrawal in brain... Like I can't have one without the other in my brain right now due to the "blend' opias I got from kures... Just a heads up.. gonna slowly lower the 7 as my doses are dwindling. Thank you to those who commented.

Day 1 of the Massachusetts war on all things kratom has begun. I thoroughly hate this but would be lying if I said it wasn’t a little bitter sweet knowing I’ve finally made my FINAL final order. That was a wild month of second guessing your stash and being baited back in by better and better sales. I probably spent more than I should have but I won’t regret it. Now it’s time to start rationing and making the most of what will probably be a long time cut off from something so valuable to so many. Don’t ever think your government cares about you. This goes for all sides of it. They are not your friends and they despise you, even the ones you vote for. Good luck to you all and cut back now to save your stock. Regardless of how much we each may be taking we all know truthfully 7 is best in small amounts so let’s keep that in mind and let these bans hurt us less than they’d like it to.

With the ban looming, I’ve seen some companies mention Akuamma Alkaloids as a replacement. Anyone familiar with it?

So I placed an order and got some not to long ago and went to reorder yesterday morning at like 3am. It usually goes from the processing to completed status within a couple of hours but it’s still sitting at processing on the website after doing some scrolling on Reddit it sounded like 3 ingredients may have been schedule 1’d but some google searches seem to say it’s still legal to buy. I’m in SC any help would be appreciated!

I have been having a nightmare of a time trying to taper, my nervous system has been in complete overdrive and I've been feeling like I'm gonna have a heart attack. And instead of being in a loving and supportive environment, I'm dealing with an incredible amount of emotional abuse. From both my daughter and my long term boyfriend. They are both treating me like absolute trash right now. Yelling and screaming at me, calling me a druggie, all kinds of shit. I can't live like this. :( I'm starting to feel really really bad mentally. I am about to start a new medication and I don't want to be alone but they refuse to be here with me and they're screaming at me for even asking. It's a fucking nightmare. God I hate my fucking life so much, I'd be better off dead.

Here is the link to the Docket to make your comment

If you want to help preserve access to 7-OH, please submit a comment to the OASH docket. They have reopened the comment period.

PLEASE NOTE: OASH is NOT currently asking for general opinions about 7-OH, whether it is useful, or whether it should permanently remain unscheduled. They are specifically asking for evidence and data to help determine the 7-OH threshold for temporary scheduling.

OASH wants information addressing:

What concentration or quantity of 7-OH in a product constitutes a hazard to public safety?

This can best be answered by providing what dosages you personally take. With everyone's combined comments, it'll give them an idea of what the public is safely using instead of the threshold they've currently set.

If you don't have scientific evidence, provide your own real world evidence, it absolutely provides valuable context. Don't just say "7-OH is safe.". During the last comment period, there were a lot of comments that didn't address their request.

A large number of thoughtful, individually written comments containing relevant evidence and specific information is far more useful than thousands of identical "save 7-OH" messages.

Read the request. Gather your evidence. Answer the questions they actually asked. Be specific and respectful - this is an important opportunity to make sure the threshold is based on real-world evidence rather than the overly broad cutoff they've set.

For the record, im not coming here to say 7 is saved and we are good to go. However, i will say that something is afoot and different with the schedule notice of 7 and this comment period extension. I see a lot of people saying that they’ve only extended it just to figure out what would be the allowable threshold to leave leaf kratom alone. But, there already IS a threshold they know of that would leave plain leaf alone and i really hope people stop parroting this whole threshold narrative. There can be trace amounts of pseudo in leaf kratom & 7 if they are left to sit for a long time which is why the DEA specifically stated the whole selective enforcement on the ban in the pseudo ban paperwork. I believe what they’re saying is they will not enforce it on manufacturers or people who have some 7 or leaf thats been sitting that has accrued detectable trace amounts of pseudo in them but rather the enforcement is for manufactured pseudo in the forms of tabs, powder, etc. It really bums me out to see so many people using the threshold argument to tell people that the fight is over and 7 is 100% done for and going away, and yes even though you can still legally buy 7, there are people commenting and posting that 7 is 100% over with. Which is hilarious because if it is then how did i just place an order? And if you understand the DEA and its history when it comes to scheduling and banning substances you would understand that something is different and the fight seems to be working. If you were in on 7Hopes meeting from today you would understand what i mean by that. If you werent in the live meeting, i encourage you to go watch it as there are new forms of action they are calling for and there was a lot of useful, important, and interesting information provided! Thats my ted talk, thank you for reading if you made it this far!

Edit: I find it funny that im getting downvotes for stating facts and evidence in hopes of continuing to spread hope to keep the fight alive. It amazes me that the people who are dependent upon this substance are downvoting me for trying to look at the facts and stay positive about this all. Im not telling people that they arent going to ban it, im simply trying to inform others to keep the fight going and that what the government is doing with this whole emergency scheduling is something they’ve never done before when it comes to the emergency scheduling of a Class 1 substance. I forgot its reddit though and people argue with emotions rather than facts, oh well.

anyone know what this shi is talkin bout? what is what they are calling "13OH"?? this is the first place I've ever seen or heard about it....??

this is fucking bullshit a crime against all people

They’re saying it has same of risk as fent

On YouTube! Better see you all there! They’re going to talk about the public comment period extension, what we should say in the comments, and present a solid plan! Everyone needs to watch and participate this is important!!

It’s a surreal experience