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2cb first then+4mmc

All the posts I see about this combo have 4mmc first then 2cb added layer? Has anyone dropped 2cb first, then an hour or so later dropped 4mmc? Was thinking of doing this combo to reduce the urge to redose 4mmc. Plan is to have a sex session on 2cb then take the 4mmc to rev us up for round two?

Does taking 2cb dull the 4mmc? Any reason why no one does this? Thanks guys!

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u/Illustrious_Shine572 — 11 hours ago

Tips for a first time meth sex insanity

First; sorry for the long read but I am seeking solid advice from experienced users of the recreational sort. Also some dripping stories and hysterical anecdotes if they are out there and want to come home.

We are a couple, me M60 she F59, who are planning an epic sex session using meth. We have not done meth before but loads of times with both MDMA and LSD. These rolls have been absolutely amazing after all the years of crawling on our knees through the desert of menopause. We are in relatively good shape, use sensible doses and stim dick has not been a significant issue so far. I use cialis and usually a little bit of a BJ is enough to turn on the lights. Difficult for me to come but the sheer pleasure of just riding her like a race horse and not least to have the full force of her greedy lust is priceless stuff that makes it into the highlites of your life.

Recently we became aware of all these anecdotes on meth in this sub. Some say there is no sex even close to be as good as meth sex and we know a challenge when we see it. Game on, but only for an annual meth day if it works out well. We have no plans to be regular users as this seems to have catastrophic consequences, judging from what people report here and elsewhere. We just want to become animals for a day and let the spirits roam freely until exhaustion takes us. I hope we at that point have done things that we never ever came to think of before, possibly even with slight regrets when reality catches up with us.

We have gotten hold of some fairly secure, possibly a little pure meth powder that we plan to ingest in capsules. I have been trying to spy out the optimal dose for this, some say a base line dose of about 15-20 mg is good for first time users. So just to verify I decided to ingest 18 mg alone just get a feel of how strong that feels like. Short story long I found it more underwhelming than expected. Became a bit horny but that leads me to my core question;

Does meth kill more erections than MDMA? I got an impression that it could maybe have a more pronounced vasoconstriction but in this experiment there was no BJ available. It could possibly just work with that service lustfully embedded in the right moment, but Im still a bit nervous about this part as it can "ruin" the night. Any extra tips on facilitating healthy erections on meth?

I am toying with the idea that if I delay my ingestion of the meth with some time in relation to hers, maybe just have some weed in advance to get me in the right direction. Then when we are already engaged with the Tower of Babylon I slip my own meth into my system, possibly by boofing for instant onset. My hypothesis is that an already wielded member makes it more difficult to shut down this system. Any experiences on that?

Alternatively, if stimdick has high odds, what if I take a healthy dose of 2c-b instead of meth but she takes the meth. I can rely on my gear when I take 2cb but I guess combining that later with meth might be a wrong mix so maybe to different drugs on the two of us? Not sure how being in different mindspace might work sexwise.

I pray there is a way to fulfill this fantasy; to be able to bring out the primal animal spirit and still master the tools of life.

Any recommendations on any parts of the plan? Setting, props or preparations?

Finally, if anyone is still reading; what is your craziest sex experience on meth? Or most satisfying?

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u/HorsesOfCanardy — 13 hours ago

4MMC for upcoming EDM concert

Going to see Martin Garrix with my wife next weekend and I’d like to try some of my 4-MMC. Both are just under 70 kg. I prepped some capsules with 200 mg initial doses and 225 redoses. I’m planning to take the first dose part way through the 2nd warm up set to give it time to hit by the time his set starts. I’m assuming we want to redose about 90 minutes after we take the initial dose. Assuming 90 minutes to 2 hours of peak, that should easily get us through the end of his set.

We’re very experienced with MDMA and Borax Combo, but less so with 3 or 4 MMC. And we haven’t done any of these in a public setting in quite a while. I don’t need to be utterly destroyed, just in a good spot to really enjoy the music/atmosphere. With that in mind, are those doses and that timing sequence reasonable?

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u/DIYGuy77 — 18 hours ago

Pareja de Málaga buscando alternativas al MDMA para el sexo (para respetar los descansos)

Buenas a todos. Somos una pareja de 48 años y llevamos un par de años experimentando el sexo con MDMA. Nos apasiona la conexión, la hipersensibilidad en la piel y las sesiones largas de 7 u 8 horas que nos regala.

Sin embargo, hemos comprobado en nuestras propias carnes que si repetimos la experiencia muy seguido, el MDMA pierde por completo su efecto (la famosa "magia"). Como queremos ser responsables y respetar estrictamente los meses de descanso que el cuerpo necesita para recuperar la serotonina, venimos a pediros consejo.

¿Qué otras sustancias o alternativas utilizáis vosotros en esos periodos de descanso que funcionen bien para el sexo? Buscamos algo que mantenga el deseo, la sensibilidad táctil o la complicidad en pareja sin agotar los mismos receptores que el MDMA. ¡Muchas gracias por vuestras opiniones!

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u/PideUnDeseo_SW — 21 hours ago

First couples roll in a year. What should I ask?

Getting ready for our first couples roll in about a year. As expect d with Molly, usually we’ll have crazy sex and talk about the stuff that we’re either too embarrassed or shy to talk about in the breaks. This has led to reveals about new kinks, masturbating to the other’s sexual history and revealing other sexual desires (group sex, bisexuality, etc).

Looking to keep this train going and get deeper and hopefully a bit more depraved this time around and hope to get some experience. What have you chatted and what have you revealed in this situation?

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Anyone else get too chatty on drugs when trying to have sexy time?

I get way too chatty on just about everything (weed, 2cb, acid, alcohol, MDMA) and it drives my wife nuts. She gets mellow, and I have to fight to shut the fuck up. I'm quiet usually and a bit OCD, analytical and a touch of the 'tism' as Neal Brenan would say. It drives her up the wall. Last time we did MDMA I told her to just stuff her panties in my mouth anytime I went overboard.

Anyone else have this issue or have some kind of trick that works for them? It's really a problem and I try my best to be quiet.

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u/zjpv — 2 days ago
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Has anyone enjoyed swimming in a cool/cold lake on M?

…or just misery / danger? We’re experiencing cold water swimmers, and thought this would be fun, but the reports I read here are very mixed.

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u/research_curious_0 — 1 day ago

Adderall, Poppers, super long solo session

Got about 90mg total of adderall IR. 3 30mg tabs that i can split into 15s. Girlfriend is outta town again. Got all night and all day tomorrow. No work, no plans for the next three days atleast as of now. So far I've taken two 15mgs two hours apart. Third ima take about 3 and a half hours after the last, so soon, and go from there. Got my desktop ready, tv playing movies or music in the back. could even call my girlfriend from time to time if i want. should be a fun session. hell, ive done these before, this could last and feel amazing 16+ hours if done right lol.

Would love to know yalls thoughts. Any advice, tips? ill update here and there but obviously ill be more focused on my session.

Love yall, love this community ❤️

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u/RedTiger10 — 1 day ago
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Nectar Spectra Labs - review and 4-MMC results

Nectar Spectra is a new testing lab replacing Kykeon:

https://www.nectarspectralabs.com/

I tested their Full Identification and Purity service for €85.

After ordering, I received a sample ID, prepared and double-bagged the sample, labeled it clearly, and mailed it to Spain.

Shipping from Germany took about two weeks, and I received the results one week after arrival. Everything went smoothly and felt professional.

Sample
Obtained in Berlin in early March.

Results
4-MMC HCl: 93.4%
Methylamine HCl: 0.7%
Unidentified impurities

Overall, I’m very happy with the service. Given that many other substances are currently being sold as 4-MMC in Berlin, I was relieved that the sample was confirmed as 4-MMC and was reasonably pure.

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u/Training_Course_3241 — 2 days ago

MDMA(redose) followed by 4MMC(redose). Good experiences?

I find some very mixed reviews about the combo. Has anyone enjoyed this? We’re very infrequent participants, healthy, material lab tested. Rigid self care and supplement routine.

With M we’ve really enjoyed the long cuddle and connection, we start early because it takes so long and we do one 50% redose. We’d like to follow up one session with 4MMC, but I usually read that folks here skip to the MDMA redose. Does any one extend the M and enjoy it?

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u/research_curious_0 — 1 day ago

First time rolling with another friend

So after a lot of discussion, me and my gf have decided to take it forward and inviting someone to join us and finally we planned it for this weekend for another guy friend of mine to join for the first time for MMF.
Our plan is for 4mmc, g and c

Is there anything you guys would recommend that be mindful of whilst we are doing it since it’s going to be first time with another person joining us. Like anything I should keep in mind as well or be careful of? Would appreciate any input.

Has anyone faced something like this?

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u/Quick-Proposal5093 — 1 day ago

i am struggling with chemsex, gooning, and secret feminine side — looking for advice

Hello everyone,

I’m a straight guy in my 20s/30s and I’ve been struggling with something for a while that I’ve never really talked about openly. I mainly practice everything solo and don’t have a girlfriend right now. During stimulant (speed) sessions, I can spend entire weekends isolated at home, watching porn, gooning for hours, and escaping deeper and deeper into fantasy.

One part that confuses me is that during these sessions I sometimes like dressing in a feminine/goth style — makeup, feminine clothes, stockings, dark aesthetics, etc. It feels connected to the altered mental state and the escape itself. Outside of those moments, I’m completely heterosexual and don’t really identify with being feminine in daily life. That’s why I constantly wonder if something is “wrong” with me psychologically, or if drugs and compulsive porn use are just amplifying fantasies and behaviors.

The bigger issue is honestly the loss of control. Once I start using stimulants, I can’t stop. I stay awake for 2–4 days, neglect food and sleep, and afterward I feel mentally drained, ashamed, anxious, and disconnected from myself. Then after recovering for a few days, the cravings return again.

I’m not hurting anyone and I know clothing/fantasies alone don’t define sexuality, but I’m worried about the compulsive aspect of all this and how dependent I’ve become on these sessions to escape stress, loneliness, or emotions.

Has anyone here dealt with something similar?

  • How did you regain control?
  • Did therapy help?
  • Did quitting stimulants reduce the compulsive/fetish side?
  • How do you separate fantasy from identity without panicking about it?

I’d really appreciate honest and non-judgmental advice. Thanks for reading.

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u/Kimakoh — 1 day ago

5mapb plür what to expect

Taking some tomorrow with the wife what should I expect. Typical choice is mdma and we love it. Pretty versed around 275mg on our Molly nights typically starting with 200 then later 75.

Just wondering what to expect with 5mapb

Have plenty so amount isn’t an issue. Just want to make it fun

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u/ImaginaryLet8176 — 2 days ago

Ideas for piss play while rolling on MDMA?

I can’t really pee while I’m rolling, but my girlfriend can. We also piss in a bowl beforehand so we can play with it during the trip.

Any ideas or things that feel especially good? I think her peeing on my face would feel good, but that’s pretty basic — I want the real kinky shit.

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u/onaga_drgnking — 2 days ago

One partner rolling, the other sober does it change the connection?

My wife and I used to have MDMA sessions together maybe once or twice a year. Those nights were always extremely intense emotionally and sexually — a lot of connection, intimacy, music, lights, talking for hours, etc. It became one of those experiences that really stayed with me.

Now she has decided that she never wants to take it again, and I fully respect that. The problem is that I honestly can’t imagine never experiencing that state again for the rest of my life. I’m not talking about frequent use or partying all the time — more like rare, intentional experiences maybe once or twice a year.

Lately I’ve been wondering about the possibility of taking MDMA alone while my partner stays sober. Not in a secretive way, but openly and with her knowing. I’m curious if anyone here has experience with one partner rolling while the other stays sober.

Not only from the sober partner’s perspective, but also from the perspective of the person who took MDMA:
Did it still feel emotionally fulfilling?
Or did the difference in state make the whole experience feel strange, disconnected, or somehow incomplete?

How did it affect the dynamic between you?
Did the sober partner feel uncomfortable?
Did the person rolling eventually feel lonely or misunderstood during the experience?

I’m especially interested in honest experiences from couples, because I’m trying to understand whether this is something that realistically works long term or whether the mismatch completely changes the vibe.

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u/GladReflection5669 — 3 days ago

what’s the best combination to make it feel best? Whats the best combo you can do regularly without harm?

Molly and LSD in my experience are the best but was told that you should rest before doing those again. So curious what everyone else’s favorite combo is and what combo is best that you can do weekly. Recently went to EDC and met someone but we don’t want to do molly or lsd with only 1 week of rest.

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u/AccomplishedBrush157 — 3 days ago

GhB Dosage Question

Question for people that take G.

Got some and it was tested at 700mg per ml.

Took 2ml the first time. I did not feel anything.

Took 4ml (3ml + 1ml one hour later) and was just sleepy.

Do I do something wrong? I sleep very well tho. Do I need to up my dose? I thought 4ml was pretty high dose.

Thanks !

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u/Matt_Rux — 3 days ago