So i just read some stuff about virginia and the ban of 7 oh, but i can't fully understand what is going on but maybe someone can help me with figuring out what all this means and specifically what it means for MGM and me being able to order mgm powder in virginia. Thanks
Get this, I submit and order Tuesday night with next day shipping to ensure it would be sent out on time Wednesday (and show up Thursday). Tracker updates and says it’ll be here today, all seems normal. Then they send out an email that says “hey guys we don’t know why but FedEx wasn’t accepting packages, but don’t worry you’ll still get the packages with your original shipping. If you bought overnight then we’ll send it through UPS next day air.”
Turns out that was a lie. I guess submitting my order too early screwed me in a way? Because this morning, instead of my package being here, I have to wait another day. This was already an emergency package because another vendor was three days behind on shipping mine, so now I have to drive out of state to get shitty smokeshop tabs.
Yeah I’m annoyed, especially because I’m out an extra two hundred fifty between the emergency order and smokeshop prices, but whatever I assume they’ll make it right in some way. Surely, if the package failed to get sent out on time (whether it be the vendor or the shipper), they would offer some kind of refund, ESPECIALLY if they send an email/discord chat reassuring everyone that everything would still show up on time and no need to worry, then
that turns out being demonstrably untrue in my case.
What do they offer? For not only not shipping stuff out late (not necessarily their fault) but lying and saying it would be here with the originally ordered date (100% their fault)? They say “sorry, best we can do is half of the shipping, it’s in our policy!” I wasn’t a dickhead about asking for a refund, I just said I feel the shipping should definitely be refunded and maybe some store credit given they sent out wrong information (I would’ve submitted another order later in the day or with another vendor if I knew they sent me wrong information). And their response is to make me pay almost double what KH’s two day shipping rate as “compensation.” Absolutely fucking abysmal customer service.
Went and saw a deal which in retrospect was probably too good to be true on 7ohblacks old site. I placed the order, received an email from favordalkz.com (instead of 70hblack) saying it was received and it never actually shipped.
Granted it's only been one day but I'm a little concerned this seems rather fishy. Does anyone know anything about these guys?
I used to order 70h blacks powders all the time until they shut down. I know they were supposed to have come back so I had assumed they were legit but now I'm second-guessing....
Thanks for any info
Please contact and ask for age restrictions and regulation not an all out ban
New to me at least.. most people have been doing this for a long time..
I got a sample of OEs galactic glitter and mixed 20mg with lemon juice and it’s GREAT.
Of course, now OE’s galactic glitter is out of stock.
What are some great powders that I should try?
I’m honestly really surprised. I’ve always been a tab guy, and have heard powder doesn’t hit as well as tabs do, but GG powder with lemon juice is fantastic.
Would appreciate anyone that’s able to help me with figuring out how to source some 7 here in SLC Utah while I’m visiting from out of town, will make it worth it financially and all that. Thanks!
I’ve never tried this vendor, but their tabs look great.
Anyone had these, or any opinions on 7omd?
RAW has the best looking inventory by far.. so much variety.. from essar 17, normal 7oh, MIT, emgeeem, etc.
The only reason they aren’t my main vendor is pricing. Why buy 50 30mg tabs from RAW for 170 when I can get the same exact quantity and mg for 93 doll hairs from another vendor?
It really sucks man. I know they are running 10% off like 2 days out of the month, but that just isn’t enough when the competition is 15% cheaper.
Anyone else feel the same? Such a shame.
Thinking of saving it for the morning wd to see if it works
They have a 6 pack of 200mg tabs for 40 doll hairs. How is that possible? I mean let’s say they’re 50% dosed, that’s still better price than anything out there
Title says it. I need that cheap cheap. Trying to taper I’m out of cash and house bills need to get paid. What can anyone recommend?
Been going down a rabbit hole trying to understand the pharmacology of 7oh and keep hitting this comparison to morphine?? The potency numbers I'm seeing vary wildly depending on the source. I see some people saying it's stronger and some saying it's weaker, but why? I'm looking at my options for pain management and I'm trying to figure out what I'm getting into. Has anyone here dug into this?
So i have never purchased from these vendor before like ever, I read a few bad things about them here on reddit about stout, something claiming the labs came back and had some chemicals in their powders. Not sure if this is true tho.
But how are they? i'm about to place a order and i only have enough money for 1 gram so i need to choose wisly and i'd like to have some help on what to do.
But how is there powders? such as these from stout "MGM-15 “Stout’s Sweet tooth” and "MGM-15 O.G Berry" or MIT “Snow White” 90.1%??
Or what about etxtracts.com? how is that one? which one of these two should i go with ?
Which one should i go with?? Thank u very much.
Yeah so does the website Stoutalkz have a telegram or discord so i can talke to other people or ask questions about the products? i have searched everywhere but i don't see anything, i would really like to know some things about them and their products?
Some of the questions i would like to ask are.
What are the best mgm powders they have right now? i have been looking through their stuff i'm wanting to find something in the 90% and i see a few that are that.
How is their mgm powders? i'm use to taking mgmpf and 7ohhub i'v never had stout, I did read a reddit post awhile back saying the labs on them came back with some bad chemicals in it, is that true?
Thanks alot i'm hoping to find some answers here before i decide weather or not to place a order with them.
Edit: also i don't see labs for the "MGM-15 Recrystallized Creme-Yellow Salt" anyone know what the percentage is on this powder? or the "MGM-15 Skittlezz" anyone know the percentage of these? Thanks
**These bills don't have a scheduled hearing, but it's better to get ahead of it. I believe NY's session ends June 4th, and if they believe it's a major issue, it can move quickly.
NY A10969/S10514
“Synthetic Kratom Kills Act”
which would ban synthetic or adulterated kratom products, flavored products aimed at minors, vape/injectable kratom products, and products with over 2% 7-hydroxymitragynine. It also bans sales to anyone under 21 and requires child-resistant packaging, testing, and clear labeling.
We want fair regulation, prohibition!
Sponsors:
S10514: Senator Jessica Scarcella-Spanton (D) spanton@nysenate.gov
A10969: Asm. Jacob Blumencranz ( R)
Both referred to Health Committee:
Gustavo Rivera (D, Chair) grivera@nysenate.gov
Jacob Ashby ( R) ashby@nysenate.gov
Samra G. Brouk (D) brouk@nysenate.gov
Patrick M. Gallivan (R ) gallivan@nysenate.gov
Kristen Gonzalez (D) gonzalez@nysenate.gov
Robert Jackson (D) jackson@nysenate.gov
Jackson M. Martins (R ) martins@nysenate.gov
Rachel May (D) may@nysenate.gov
Zellnor Myrie (D) myrie@nysenate.gov
Kevin S. Parker (D) parker@nysenate.gov
Steven D. Rhoads (R ) rhoads@nysenate.gov
Christopher Ryan (D) chrisryan@nysenate.gov
Daniel G. Stec (R ) stec@nysenate.gov
Sam Sutton (D) sutton@nysenate.gov
Lea Webb (D) leawebb@nysenate.gov
Below is somewhat of a template and points to touch on when emailing NY senators. Also, always add your story in an email and explain how a ban would affect you.
“I am writing to as a consumer to respectfully oppose bills A10969 and S10514. While parts of these bills involve reasonable consumer protections, they would also ban kratom products containing over 2% 7-hydroxymitragynine (7-OH), which could severely impact responsible consumers who rely on these products.
I ask that you carefully consider the science. 7-hydroxymitragynine (7-OH) is a naturally occurring alkaloid found in the kratom plant (Mitragyna speciosa),
a tropical tree native to Southeast Asia. It is not a novel synthetic drug, nor is it a laboratory invention. 7-OH is naturally produced by the body after consuming kratom’s primary alkaloid, mitragynine. Banning 7OH could therefore have broader implications for kratom access as a whole, beyond what may be intended.
Policies should be grounded in science, evidence, and consumer safety—not confusion or overly broad classification. Many responsible consumers rely on 7OH as part of their daily lives, and sweeping restrictions could have serious unintended consequences. Individuals who depend on it for health or harm reduction may suffer greatly. Removing access risks pushing people toward unsafe alternatives, including illicit substances, or leaving them unable to function in daily life.
Rather than prohibition, I strongly encourage you to consider responsible regulation and consumer protections.
I respectfully ask that you oppose these bills or amend them to ensure fair, evidence-based treatment of natural kratom alkaloids and harm-reduction options.”
I often am working in states where it’s completely illegal, and have to drive 2-3 hours to the next state over to get some, but one time while doing this I drive into a town under an active tornado warning, saw 2 tornadoes in the direction I was driving, and decided I’d rather chance being killed by a tornado than turn around and work for the week while sick.