u/drippysoap

Interested to see if you guys have any thoughts on this.

One I’m surprised I haven’t seen yet is
7aco- mit

4fluro-7hydroxy mit ( this is what 7 oh is to mgm -15 as would be the precursor to mgm-16)
Which for some reason they banned MGM 16 and I’ve never heard of a single person using it.

I’ve heard whispers of coryoxone B don’t know much about it.

Then there’s deuterated compounds which is how pharma companies are claiming patents on existing molecules but have the same effect.

7 seems to be the magic position so maybe other esters such as 7pro-mit

Then there’s just other straight up RCs, tramadol and methadone analogs.

Pretty much the SR series is just starting lol.

I mean I guess the biggest problem is that 7ohm is a precursor for many analogs which could no longer be produced domestically, legally, at scale. So importation may drive prices up.

But ultimately I think the indole-opioid scaffold is a good one and many things can still come out of it. I’ve even heard that some substitutions can get psychedelic

So after being dependent on clonazepam for some years now and basically having every anxiolytic med thrown at me, I’m really impressed with clonidine. For one it actually helps with anxiety, as well as being mildly sedating. Which is basically all benzos do for me now. I used to get euphoria as a teenager but 15 yrs later it’s not so much.

I’m just not sure why it took so long to find this med. Obviously went thru ssris, snris, selective norepinephrine RIs, busbar which sucked , remeron which was OK but I gained like 20 pounds in a month. They got close with Guanfancine , testosterone, even adderall and vyvanse (for anxiety! Which helped for like 2 days then made things worse), bupropion, modafanil, hydroxyzine, thc, propranolol

But finally clonidine helped my anxiety I’d say just as much as a benzo.

Ketamine also helped but obv not the same thing. Then opioids for me were like the supreme anxiolytic and adhd med wrapped in to one lol.

As far as otc stuff valerian and kava helped but for a short period of time. I take an ashwaganda, magnesium, l-theanine supplement currently

Anyhow def not medical advice but seeing as how benzos are so hard to get nowadays I just wanted to shoutout this surprising gem that I didn’t think existed. So if your provider won’t do benzos clonidine is a close 2nd in my book and a few otc items may help in times of extreme stress.

I’ve kept a few of those meds being Rx’d but the clonazepam and clonidine are what actually let me me a normal functional person. Wish i could get modafanil again but oh well.

Stay safe!

It seems as though Reddit has been deleting MGM Subs for allowing sourcing. As I would like to keep this tiny community alive for discussion of MGM and similar subjects, a new no sourcing rule has been put in place for now.

basically the title. I want to use mgm and take breaks intermittently. I’ve seen multiple reports of people using regular full agonists (mostly surprisingly from years ago), getting pwds from
Bupe, then using their DOC to stop pwds. Then from being “inducted” to subs they can continue bupe regularly from then on out.

I kinda get why medical providers don’t say or recommend this bc I’m sure most people on bupe were coming off stuff that may be unsafe to dose again.
I’m just surprised if this works that it isn’t more well known

Not sure if this has been posted here before but :

https://www.reddit.com/r/opiates/s/MdiRnqC1pO