We’ve been talking about knowing the different processes people use to bring themselves to a HFDO. We know that it’s very individual to for everyone…. But knowing the different elements might spark some ideas for those of us who are less experienced.
What do you do to trigger a HFDO? What’s your process?
Right, so it’s been 16 days since I last had a traditional wank to ejaculation. What started as a simple quest for my first HFWO has turned into this daily (sometimes twice-daily) ultra-gratifying prostate pleasure spiral. My boyfriend’s out of town dealing with family drama, so it’s just been me at home having proper 45–60 minute sessions first thing in the morning before work, last thing at night, or both. Usually start with the Helix Syn or Eupho, sometimes finish with the Njoy or a dildo. I’ve been so trigger-happy that within two or three minutes of putting a toy in I’m already getting those deep abdominal contractions that bloom into HFDOs. Sometimes I’ll have porn on (usually just listening), most of the time it’s binaural beats in the headphones with classical music in the background so the neighbours don’t hear me moaning and cumming like a complete slut.
I’ve been ending every session with intentional HFWOs just so I can actually get to sleep or leave for work and shut the constant waves up. Sometimes it’s a choice, sometimes my body just forces it.
The last two days I had zero play. Work was stressful, boyfriend’s family stuff was stressful, lots of heavy conversations about aging parents — not exactly sexy vibes. This morning my stomach was off so a proper clean-out wasn’t happening. No toys today then. I just lay on the bed gooning, watching porn, playing with my poor 16-day-neglected cock. Edging myself over and over. Proper rock hard, balls feeling heavy as fuck. Keep in mind my prostate had been getting drained once or twice a day until two days ago, so now I’m backed up on top of 16 days of no penile release.
I’m lying there teasing and denying myself, having a proper goon session, when all of a sudden my legs start twitching. Then my whole body starts involuntarily shaking and a full HFDO just takes over. Legs pull up, I’m literally vibrating on the bed. Most intense prostate orgasm and it started from me stroking my dick. Completely dry, no toy, and the refractory period was like 10–20 seconds. It finally dies down, I’m lying there breathless thinking “what the fuck was that?”
Naturally I wonder if I can do it again.
Start wanking to porn again and within a minute or two another HFDO hits, even stronger. Legs clapping together, I can actually feel my prostate engorge and push like it does against a toy… except nothing’s there. I just relax into it and this orgasm rolls and rolls and keeps going until it finally lets me go.
At this point my body is desperate for release. I get on my knees, back straight, arse between my feet (my usual HFWO position) and another HFDO immediately slams into me. It’s so intense I end up folding forward, chest down, arse up, face in the pillow, just getting wrecked by it. Then that massive prostate-engorged feeling hits again, I’m groaning like an animal, start panting, feel my urethra relax like I’m about to piss… and suddenly an aless HFWO erupts. Proper gush of prostatic fluid all over my hand and my new waterproof blanket (cheers for that rec, lads).
As soon as it finishes I’m floating and the pleasure itself triggers another one. Stronger. Squirting again. Then a third wave hits and this time the HFWO morphs into a full peegasm — pure euphoric release, all that pressure just flowing out of my cock in a stream while my whole body is still convulsing with pleasure.
I properly collapsed after that. Completely fucked, deeply satisfied, and honestly a bit stunned.
I didn’t know that was even possible. I was fully planning on having a proper wank this weekend and resetting, especially after reading how some of you lot take breaks or wank weekly to stay sensitive. But now… I don’t know. Maybe I’ll see how long I can ride this wave instead. I’ve never felt anything so blissfully, ridiculously pleasurable in my life.
Had to share.
Cheers.
An Aneros orgasm does not always stay neatly “internal.” People sometimes describe pleasure beginning deep in the pelvis, then spreading into the penis and the rest of the body. At that point the labels get messy, because penile involvement alone does not reveal whether the experience remained prostate-led or shifted into a familiar penile orgasm while an Aneros happened to be there.
The two experiences could overlap without being identical. What seems important is not whether the penis was completely absent, but what was actually carrying the orgasmic build. Internal pelvic pleasure can remain the main thread even as other areas join in. On the other hand, having a device inserted does not automatically make an otherwise conventional penile-and-ejaculatory orgasm prostate-led.
This is a naming and recognition question, not a request for settings, positions, or technique. For people who have experienced both, when penile sensation joined an Aneros orgasm, what made you recognize that the internal response was still driving the peak?
Semi lurker here. Been on this journey for quite some time (more than 20 years). Still have not gotten to where I would like to, but I keep on going. Last night I made a decision to cut off the k-tab of my Progasm Jr. I debated with this decision for a long time because you can't reverse it, but decided to do it anyways. I've cut the k-tabs off of the first gen toys (ones where the k-tab curled down) and it did help, but that was a long time ago.
I am not endorsing this, but for me it made an incredible difference. The Prograsm Jr. could dance freely. I have not experienced this level of prostate contact despite trying almost every model aneros sells. I felt the strong 'need to pee' sensation, p-waves, and I was writhing in pleasure. My whole body was squirming as if my brain could not contemplate what was happening. I was also quite vocal, and could feel the pleasure peak, drop, but then the pleasure would rise again. I could repeat this over and over, and it felt so amazing. What was different for me is that I was not questioning if the toy was hitting my prostate, it was undeniable.
I am by nature a very patient person. Maybe you are not, but know this: the pleasure is real and so are the success stories on this and the prostateplay sub. So don't give up, keep going and at some point things will start to click.
If I can share some things I've learned:
Lube is an important part. I've used a bunch of water based lubes, and X-lube is my favorite. However coconut oil is amazing. I freeze tablespoon shots of it and then use it like a suppository.
Relaxation is key. Relax your entire body. If you feel tension anywhere like your arms, neck, shoulders etc. try to relax them until you are a pile of goo. Also don't force or chase the feelings. Trust your body. Your body/brain needs to learn how to recognize the new sensations, and it will but it takes time so be patient with yourself. You will get there.
If you haven't done mindgasm, I highly recommend doing at minimum the first 3 lessons. Just knowing how to identify the different muscles is incredibly helpful.
Accept your sessions for what they are. Some will be better than others and that's ok. If a session is not going the way you would like it to, better to end it and try again at a different time.
I know nothing I've said is new, but I wanted to share that the journey is worth it. Don't give up.
One thing has always bothered me and i want an answer.
So the prostate is 2-3 inches inside the ass right. So why are vast majority of devices designed to stimulate it WAY longer that 2-3 inches. Surely that means it goes past it entirely, surely smaller devices are the way forward!
Ive found that myself, the smaller the device the better.
Hi All,
I've been part of this community for almost 4 years now and have responded to countless posts, doing my best to help and answer questions as time permits.
I've spent a lot of time analyzing my own experiences, learning as much as I could, and then trying to help others achieve the results I've been lucky enough to experience myself. Over the years on this sub, I've noticed trends and themes that keep cropping up in the questions that get asked most frequently.
This is an incredibly under-studied area of human existence and an incredibly complicated one. The weight of patriarchal and religious conditioning, accumulated over millennia, has left an indelible mark on how we view our own sexuality and sexual practices. I believe the pendulum is getting ready to swing the other way — and it's time we cast away the meanings we've been handed and begin to create our own.
As you all know, this sub is a special place, and it frequently receives praise for its open-mindedness. It's the people on this very sub who have inspired me to share what I've learned and experienced in a more in-depth, meaningful and profound way.
As I've mentioned in a relatively recent post, I've been working on a book for a while now. It's been a process — I never thought of myself as a writer — but over the last 25 years I've been answering posts on various forums, so writing has been a large part of my adult life, just not formally.
There's also a fair amount of inner work that comes with writing a book of this nature. As someone who spent most of his life concerned with what others think, the very notion of releasing a book on this subject matter has been a worthy opponent to wrestle with. Good news is — I plan on winning that match.
My journey of self-discovery has impacted every facet of my life for the better, and it's created an opportunity to not only tell my own transformative story, but potentially pave the way for others to do the same.
I've started a Substack in support of the book where I'll be releasing posts on pleasure, sexuality, healing and self-discovery — and I'm hoping you'll take some time to read, interact, share, and help me blow the doors open on this topic. It's time to take back what's always been rightfully ours — before the meanings we were handed down and never agreed to stripped us of our humanity and the pleasure the Universe intended for us to experience.
I'll be spending the first while speaking directly to the men here, inspired by the members of this very community. From there I'll be expanding into a space for both men and women — because I've successfully taught my wife to reach the same transcending orgasmic bliss I discovered for myself, which tells you it’s not about what equipment you were born with. I believe all humans are capable of accessing limitless pleasure, and the book will lay out exactly how.
The first two posts are live now on Quest4Bliss.
Post 1: https://quest4bliss.substack.com/p/the-conversation-nobody-is-having?r=8mrvv7
Post 2: https://quest4bliss.substack.com/p/the-door-i-never-expected-to-open?r=8mrvv7
Current line up (in order of effectiveness) is the maximus, psy, eupho syn V, vice 2, progasm jr. The psy used to be the most effective but the maximus has taken its place lately.
With that in mind, do ya’ll think I would have more success with the HIH 950 or MGX?
I’m currently on Day 21 of the 30-day Mindgasm challenge, and while I’m enjoying the process, today was generally a frustrating day. I’m hoping those with more experience can offer some guidance on managing the mental noise and the frustration that comes with it.
To give some context, here’s how my days generally go at the moment:
I get up early and do my Mindgasm training. I really enjoy this because I can genuinely focus on the subtle sensations in my pelvic region, and it leaves me feeling positive about my progress. Later in the day, if my wife goes out, I’ll use my lunch break to have a go with my Aneros (I have a Helix Syn).
The problem is, as much as I try to replicate my morning session, I just can’t seem to get into it. I’ve tried pushing myself to get aroused beforehand, but it makes no difference.
As soon as I feel even a tiny sensation, my brain instantly takes over and I find myself saying:
- "I can feel something, I need to focus on it."
- "Is this going to grow?"
- "Try spreading it around.”
And the second I feel something stirring, I say "It’s starting to happen" in my head, and all of my muscles naturally start to tense up, forcing me to actively focus on relaxing my whole body. It’s usually at this point the sensation dies off.
Between breathing deeply, feeling for sensations, and trying to keep my entire body relaxed, it feels like a constant juggling act of competing priorities. It feels so much simpler with Mindgasm because I just listen and follow the instructions.
Today, despite my best efforts to focus on inputs rather than outputs, I got incredibly frustrated and ended up finishing with a TO. I’ve been berating myself about it ever since.
I’m starting to think using my lunch break is part of the problem. Slack notifications, as I’ve found out, are the ultimate buzzkills for trying to relax into a session!
I’d love to get your thoughts on three specific questions:
Any advice from people who have moved past this overthinking phase would be massively appreciated.
I’ve had the Helix Syn (and also Progasm Black + MGX Trident) for almost two years. For most of that time I used it only once or twice a month when I had privacy. Results were basically zero — mild sensations at best. I almost threw them away. I didn’t use any of them for about three months because I was convinced it just wouldn’t work for me.
Then in the last few days everything changed.
I started doing sessions closer together. I focused much more on staying soft and relaxed instead of thrusting or trying to force it. I also used strong mental arousal (certain images/stories that work for me) and paid attention to the exact angle that felt best. For me the sweet spot is more inwards — the Helix needed to rub inward against the front wall.
What happened:
• Clear pleasure waves started appearing
• I got a “magnetic” deep rubbing sensation on a specific spot
• Body trembling/shaking for the first time
• Multiple dry orgasms in one session, each stronger than the last
• One of them was the most intense orgasm I’ve ever had (had to actively control making noise)
• Strong residual charge the next day, easy re-arousal, felt energized rather than drained
I still struggle with staying completely soft when the intensity gets high — the urge to start moving and rubbing is strong. But I’ve now felt both sides: the softer path that builds the waves, and the more active path that can push it over.
Where I feel I am now The prostate feels clearly “awake.” I’m past the long dead phase. I can reach real dry orgasms and full-body reactions. Super-O (the longer continuous/rolling kind) is the next thing I’m curious about, but I’m not there yet.
What’s next I have limited privacy for the next week, so I’ll try short maintenance sessions when possible. After that I have better privacy again and plan to go deeper while this responsiveness is still strong.
Main things that seemed to make the difference for me:
• Sessions closer together instead of big gaps
• Actually practicing staying soft instead of always doing
• Strong mental arousal paired with the physical sensations
• Finding and protecting my personal sweet-spot angle
• Not ejaculating for several days beforehand
If you’ve been at this for a long time with almost no results, don’t assume it will never work. Sometimes it just stays quiet for a long time and then suddenly opens up when a few things line up.
One beginner question in the recent posts stood out to me: whether the penis is supposed to stay erect during an Aneros session. The replies people give elsewhere often collapse erection, arousal, and orgasm into one visible signal.
Those aren’t the same measurement. An erection can change while pelvic pleasure and attention remain present; on the other hand, a softer penis can also accompany ordinary loss of arousal. So the useful distinction seems less about hardness itself and more about what the internal experience is doing at the same time—whether pleasure is becoming more coherent and absorbing, staying neutral, or simply fading.
This is about how people interpreted the experience, not about maintaining an erection or changing technique. I’d like to hear from people who have had both kinds of sessions. When your erection softened but the Aneros experience continued, what changed in the quality or direction of the pleasure that told you it was still developing rather than the session winding down?
How many of you guys use your Aneros daily? I find I enjoy its daily for up to three days, then the returns start to diminish.
Background:
Foremost, I'm so excited to be on this journey and I'm in no rush to find that dry prostate orgasm. Here to enjoy the ride....
I have the Aneros Eupho Syn V device, which I got a little while ago. This is my first backdoor device I've owned and have never inserted anything in my ass prior to this. I've had ~13 sessions with it so far ranging from 45-85 minutes. Some sessions I've experimented w/ additional penile stimulation, other sessions being backdoor only. Some sessions I've finished w/ penile orgasm, w/ the device still inserted.
I still have yet to consciously identify the prostate. Usually my conscious fidelity of sensation increases overtime during a session going from dull awareness of something being in my ass to a higher definition of felt sensation(s) back there, however I still don't necessarily feel where the prostate is. Inactive approaches haven't amounted to much, while more active seems to do more for me. Further, I have yet to observe any involuntary contractions whatsoever, nor any leakage. Given time, I generally can find some pleasure from the backdoor every session to various degrees, but nothing too crazy.
Thoughts and Questions:
I remember that Forrest Andrews mentioned in a podcast that the Eupho device can require more advanced muscle use / control, especially being a smaller device. Any additional thoughts or comments on this? After reading the wiki again, I'm thinking I should experiment w/ more structured contraction exercises. I've mostly just gone w/ the flow during sessions, just contracting and relaxing here and there, rocking my hips, etc; generally playing around with what feels good. I think I've lost the plot a bit, and would like to get in the habit of really focusing on various contraction exercises and seeing how they feel. Correct me if I'm wrong, but this seems like a good approach to generating those involuntaries and leakage. I've poked through mindgasm and worked through the first few lessons prior to using the Aneros device. I'm also wondering if anyone knows of any other places to find audio exercises I can follow to help me execute on a more structured approach during sessions.
I'm also considering adding another device into my inventory to experiment with. I'm considering a larger Aneros like the Helix or Psy, or possibly getting something different like the NJOY. Would love any opinions about this.
Lastly, I'm not sure if more discussion needs to be had around this, but it seems the community is divided when it comes to use of penile stim during sessions, especially for a beginner. I see myself as simply experimenting w/ various methods and finding what works for me. I do find the sessions w/ penile stim to have a lot more going on, but unsure if it's helpful for awakening the prostate...
TLDR
Beginner finding his way... Has yet to definitely identify the feeling of the prostate, or observe any involuntary contractions, or leakage.... Has found some pleasure, but nothing crazy... Looking for thoughts around the use of the Eupho model and the need for better muscle use / control... Curious about trying a more structured approach of using contraction exercises... Looking for good guided audios for contraction exercises (other than mindgasm)... Considering getting a different (potentially larger device), or NJOY... Ongoing discussion of penile stim while awakening the prostate path...
Been practicing on and off for years (infrequently) in search of the dry super O. Still kindof at the low pleasure sensation. Own dildos plugs and the original aneros helix and progasm. The progasm gives more sensation but hurts after a while. Going to stick with the Aneros helix. Started to follow mindgasm practice( which is a bit of a challenge actually) to have some structure and guidance but really just going to insert the aneros and squeeze my muscles more often. Figure wearing it a lot is going to have to lead to something eventually right? Thanks and any help is appreciated thanks.
A couple of months ago, I made a post asking whether people who made it to a certain point eventually experienced a plateau in pleasure or a limit to making further progress. I basically wanted to know if eventually you’d come to the end of the road, at least so far as going any further is concerned. Hopefully that makes sense…
Anyway, since then I’d been thinking about making another post because every session since that post was becoming easier. The dry orgasms started faster and more easily, the pleasure was going deeper and stronger, and I was beginning to think that there was no limit to all of this. One of my recurring experiences is that I eventually ejaculate just as things become overwhelming, ending the session, but that every time the ejaculation would come later and I would be able to enjoy the pleasure longer and harder. I had the distinct impression that my body knew how much pleasure I could handle, the ejaculation kept me from going further than I was ready for, and that each session enabled me to reach a new level in the following one. I thought I could trust my body to take me only so far as would be beneficial, and then take me further the next time. I was very wrong.
Two nights ago I took just about tue same does of THC as I normally do. I had about four hours to myself and settled in to what I thought would be another great session. Things began as they usually do. I typically start a-less and wait until the dry orgasms get strong and consistent, then move onto my prograsm and once I’m fully euphoric and beginning to experience a super orgasmic state, I grab my njoy wand and tend to remain in that state for about an hour before ejaculating (again with time increasing each session). On this particular occasion the a-less orgasms were so strong and ceaseless that I couldn’t even stand to have the prograsm in me when it came time, and pulled it out after about 15 seconds.
At this point, I realized I was getting way too high from the gummy. At first, despite how much I hate being too high, I thought, fuck it. I’ll just ride this out and enjoy the best pleasure of my life. When I tell you that the waves and waves of pleasure breaking over me became intolerable, I am still underselling it. It felt good, technically, but the intensity of the good made it so terrible.
I remember thinking that I was cumming so hard that it was breaking me. I had the feeling that the orgasms were tearing me in two. I was desperate for a relief that never came because my fail safe of ejaculation never happened. I tried to enjoy it for maybe a half hour or so but this was a pleasure that could only be survived, not enjoyed.
I eventually gave up on the session and had to focus on not panicking from the intensity specific to the high. If I even sat down, looked at myself in the mirror or, god forbid, laid on the bed, the terrible orgasms started immediately. I will spare you the details, but I eventually made it through what felt like an interminable, absolutely awful evening and fell asleep.
I’m wondering where do I go from here. I obviously can’t just quit prostate play, this has been life changing and will be with me forever. I also know that I don’t ever want to feel that way again. I’m thinking I’ll cut my THC dose in half next time. I’d love to be able to get to my usual super orgasmic state (not what I’m calling pleasure panic from the other night) without needing thc, but any time I have success in dry orgasms without weed, they aren’t very strong and it ends in ejaculation fairly quickly.
Has anyone else experienced something like this? I’d love to hear from anyone who might have advice for me.
And if I can help anyone, I’m happy to answer any questions, too!
I've a ton of, what I can only describe as anal orgasms, where I feel an orgasm originating from my prostate and it stays in that area. I keep reading about people having HFDOs where they say it feels like a regular penile orgasm except no ejaculation or refractory period. How does one accomplish this? All of my sessions that were successful were always ALESS.
I've experienced a HFDO a few times while having a sexy dream. I woke up to a regular orgasm with no ejaculation. So whats the deal?
They look similar, but obviously not the same. One has a silicone surface while the other has a hard surface. I can see the spec differences, too. In actual use, the vibration notwithstanding, how close are they? That is to say, if one were to chose just one, wouldn't the added vibration be a benefit? Or, are they different enough where they will feel vastly different? Please share your knowledge and experience. Noob here. Thanks!
Serious question after playing with your toy for a couple weeks do you think that it could cause your PSA score to be above normal? The last exam I had it was over 6.9 when normally it had always been below 3.4
Doctor then did an exam and said my prostate was three times bigger than a normal prostate in the mid 60 age range.
Has anybody else ever had this happen after playing with Aneros toys.
I've been reading Super-O / Super-T write-ups here. After ejaculation, a lot of posts treat the session as over by default.
That makes sense if ejaculation is the only ending people know. But “something came out” and “the session actually finished” aren’t automatically the same event. Sometimes the body drops hard. Sometimes a peak already happened, and ejaculation is just what stopped the session.
I’m not ranking dry versus wet. I’m not asking for settings, a technique, or a how-to. I’m curious about the first time an Aneros session made that split obvious — not because of the label, and not because the clock ran long.
If you’ve had both “that ejaculation closed the whole thing” and “the session was already over before anything came out,” what felt different?
I’m about to purchase my first prostate massager and I feel like I’m lost in the sauce. I’m about to bite the bullet and just buy the helix syn v. Seems like you can’t really go wrong with that choice. I’ve been trying to read about vibrating versus non-vibrating, but I could get this one and just not use the vibration if I don’t want to correct?
I’ve never had anything up my butt by the way
Last night I took 10mg of thc and had the most intense orgasmic experience ever. I started to feel P waves once the gummie kicked in. After 15 mins or so, I was have another super o / anal orgasm.
It was amazing! Then it died down and a few minutes later, it just happened again! After that one died down, I fell into a sweet spot i guess. What mean is, I could have orgasm after orgasm effortlessly just by thinking about it! It did it maybe 10 times just from thought.
I was so tired after so I decided enough is enough. I just wanted one orgasm tonight so I was deeply satisfied. But then, the orgasms wouldn't stop. They kept coming over and over and I had to actively try to not have them. It was so hard to do it at first then it just wouldn't stop even if I wanted it to.
Was hoping for a few dry o's but it was all anal orgasms. Shaking, warmth, and moaning.
These feelings lasted all night and just now have died down. I can function normally again lol. Wtf happened and how do you get to multiple dry o's?