r/seduction

do sometimes married women or women in relationships form and 'maintain' 'friendships' with guys in attempt to monkey branch one day eventually for months or years when they already have the husband or boyfriend but nothing ever comes out of it and they end up never moneky branching with the 'guyfriend'?

i ask this because ive had married women seriously flirt with me like wanting me to make a move but they were in married relationships. like they have the plausibility to say it was 'just a friendship' if they decide to back out or change their mind.

So I'm going to her apartment for the first time, and we've already agreed we're going to have sex. Do you guys usually bring a small gift the first time you go to a woman's place? If so, what do you usually bring?

In the last month i joined a work team that is mainly women , and i challenge myself to get something out of it ( i don't date coworkers, but I don't think i will be staying in this job ) , the twist is that the women there really open up to me . Especially this girl , we laugh a lot , argue a lot , talk a lot , and also she really likes to get on my nerves ( i do the same to her that why ) , but that's it . Are these signs of friendship or attraction, because we hold eye contact a lot , i really want to take this to the next level if possible ,but she rarely goes out and spends all her time at home . I want to invite her on a date or something but after building enough tension . So what do you think ??

Can some one explain and breakdown the mystery method I’m still a little confused on it

I am currently using Gambler's method.

After reading his books, the method seems much simpler than systems like Mystery Method.

Rather than relying on routines, DHV stories or lots of scripted material, the focus is on taking action. The basic structure is: cold approach, open simply (even just "Hey"), reach the "Hook Point" by getting Indicators of Interest, build rapport through normal conversation, create attraction using techniques such as "Push Pull," "Challenges," "Breaking Rapport," "Cold Reading" and "Sexual Spikes," then escalate physically ("Kino-Escalation"), isolate and close.

There are very few (almost none) actual scripts in the books or examples of the pushpulls, breaking rapport adn cold reads etc, so I've been using Todd Valentines examples instead, as he gives them out.

The main verbatim examples of other stuff are things like "Hey," "Hey, sorry I'm late," "Why didn't you call me?", "You look familiar, did we have sex?", and eventually "Can I have your number?" The books place much more emphasis on behaviour, energy, social proof and escalation than on specific wording.

Interaction 1

I approached two girls standing near the bar. I opened with, "Hey, sorry I'm late." They looked confused and one of them laughed, asking, "Late for what?" I stayed in the conversation and tried to reach what Richard calls the "Hook Point" by keeping them talking rather than immediately ejecting.

Once they were responding, I tried to move into normal conversation and used what the book describes as rapport and comfort-building questions. I also consciously tried not to seek approval and attempted to use "Challenges" and "Breaking Rapport" rather than agreeing with everything they said.

The conversation lasted a couple of minutes but gradually died out due to it being quite one sided. One of them said they were going back to their friends and both left.

Interaction 2

I approached a woman on her own and opened with, "Why didn't you call me?" She smiled but immediately replied that I had the wrong person. Rather than apologising, I stayed relaxed and continued talking.

I focused on maintaining good energy and tried to keep the interaction playful rather than logical. I also attempted to use "Cold Reading" rather than interviewing her, although the books don't provide many concrete examples of how to do this so I used some of Todd V's.

She didn't invest much at all. After a short conversation she essentially said that I wasn't her type and wished me a pleasant night

Interaction 3

I opened a two-set with just "Hey." They both stopped briefly, so I continued instead of assuming rejection. I was consciously looking for the "Hook Point" and any Indicators of Interest

I tried to keep my body language relaxed, attempted to "hold attention" through my energy. Neither really invested much in the conversation either. After a few minutes they excused themselves to get another drink.

Interaction 4

I approached a woman near the dance floor and used, "You look familiar, did we have sex?" with a cheeky smile like he says. Didn't go down well lol. She said 'absolutely never' and walked away

Interaction 5

I approached another woman with a simple "Hey." The conversation started normally and I felt I reached the point Richard describes as the "Hook Point" because she was responding and asking a few questions back.

After talking for a while, I attempted to lead the interaction by suggesting we move to another part of the venue ("Isolating"). She declined and preferred to stay where she was with her friends.

I stayed for another minute or two before suggesting she put her number in my phone, which she did.

I had all the signs today
Met her on hinge
She asked me if we could go to ur place and drink and shit, last month she broke up w her dude
We both want something casual no strings attached typa thing
But i still messed it up today, i was too scared to say something cause i felt like i might mess it up
How do i fix this 😭

I met her on campus .. i was in the school cafeteria waiting for my next class to start. As i was sitting there at my table she walked in wearing a tank top and it was obvious she was braless because her cleavage spilling out was unbelievable.

She sat down a few tables down from mine. I went in my backpack and pulled out a piece of paper and a pen. I pretended to write something and my pen running out of ink. Then I got up to cold approach her. She sat at a table with her back to me.

NGL I was terrified af. My hands were shakey, my palms were sweaty and my stomach was upside down. I said “excuse me, would u happen to have a pen i can borrow?” She smiled and said she did reaching in her purse to grab a pen. When i took it i went back to my table. I scribbled on that piece of paper i had out and went back to her to return it. I said “well ty, i’m sorry what’s ur name?” and she told me her name was debbie. So i said “well ty debbie & btw my name is …thanks for the pen”
It was one hell of a challenge to maintain eye contact and to ignore her deep cleavage but i got through it.

Then we started a conversation and everything snowballed from there. Fast forward a few weeks
we went into dating, hanging out and phone conversations. I’m talking about no sex, no flirting, no sexual comments, no sexual tension, no nothing. Just getting to know each other & being a gentleman. Well that turned into her introducing me to her parents, her siblings and her best friends. Telling them the story of how we met.

Eventually this lead to being alone with her in my room one night. I was finally making out with her and she was feeling comfortable enough to let me take her to bed. She had me drowning in boob. We even did doggy it in front of a mirror because i wanted to see her big boobs in motion & watch them swing n sway.

After that i dropped her back at her house. We ended the night with a kiss and then she said those three words .. “I love you” .. i smiled & kissed her on the cheek then told her have a good night.

What should i do? ghost her? because i worry about her saying it again and im not ready to say all that back. Or should i just talk about it to her?

A bit of context: I live in Western Europe, where striking up a conversation with a stranger is not as common as in the US.

A couple of months ago, my relationship ended, and I finally feel ready to start dating again.

That said, I don't really want to rely on dating apps. I've used them before, but the quality of my matches just isn't what it used to be before my last relationship.

I'd much rather meet someone the old fashioned way, whether that's at a bar, in the supermarket, at the train station, or just somewhere during everyday life. The problem is that I've never approached someone outside of a house party.

Over the past few weeks, I've noticed women at the train station or in the supermarket who caught my attention or simply seemed genuinely interesting. But every time, I had no idea how to start a conversation without making them feel uncomfortable.

I know there isn't one perfect line that works in every situation, but I think it helps to have a general thought process or framework to fall back on.

So my question is: What actually goes through your mind before you approach a woman? What's your thought process, and how do you decide what you're going to say?

I’ve crossed paths with the same girl a few times while walking/running on the same route. We’ve made eye contact on multiple occasions.
Today we crossed paths again. We made eye contact, she smiled, and at the last second I smiled and waved. She smiled back, but we were already passing each other so we just kept walking.
Assuming I see her again, what would you consider the most natural progression?

Like I would probably be devoting more time to solving complex problems for humanity, but instead most of my mental bandwidth and time is spent trying to get laid.

Even things like excessive time in the gym or going for a high-paying corporate role vs working in a research lab.

I truly believe society would be a utopia if
Women didn’t select for fuckboys lmao

I`m always confused by Black Pill vids like Wheat Waffles`. Because in theory they make perfect sense.

But then I get out of the house and CONSTANTLY see average to above average looking women who are holding hands with guys that are shorter than them, have a beer belly, dark eye circles, weak jawlines, are bald or balding you name it. And don`t tell me they`re millionaires, cause there are not that many in the city I`m living in and rich men would not use public transportation or live in poor/average income neighborhoods.

I`m not saying each and every couple I see is like this, but they`re not exceptions either.

My own success rate (which is not great, but still above zero) from cold approaching nowadays is virtually the same as during the pandemic, when I was wearing a mask.

And my success rate from warm approaching is about three times higher than from CA.

So if you believe Black Pill to be true, make it make sense.

This is maybe a weird question/observation, but it happens so often to me I have to point it out to see if anyone has experienced the same thing or has an explanation.

I’ve noticed that when women are responsive to me - replying to texts, matching/replying on apps, reacting positively in public - it all happens at the same time.

I’ll be getting match after match, text after text, even getting random texts while out night gaming like the energy is flying across town lol…then suddenly nothing from anyone until it starts over. No matches, no texts, just like the female hivemind went silent.

Does anyone else experience this?

The stage between getting the number of a girl and hitting the first milestone of a relationship is probably the hardest part to me, so i want to ask you all, how do you avoid getting friendzoned or canceled in that stage? Do you keep it flirty?if yes then how? Or perhaps you keep it normal and casual? In general how do you create the sexual attraction in the talking stage and from that point how do you take things to another level?

I also want to ask this question from women, what kind of man, behaviour or trait gets instantly friendzoned for you?

The fuck are they all listening to?

Everyone talks about lifting, going out more etc to pump those numbers up but I don’t really find it has helped me… like I’ve gotten in shape (not amazing shape but good shape) and take care of grooming etc.. but I still don’t attract as many women as I’d like. I thought it was environment so now I do more activities that involve men and women.. stretching classes, group gym classes, things of that nature. And this is MONTHS going consistently.. i still feel like there something I’m missing. Im sure yall have went through phases and I wanted to know if you could spend time on one thing (that increased your success the most ) what would it be ?

P.s: I also have a month in between jobs so I can be doin things during the day too..
Would like to hear your thoughts and guidance

I want to know more about first dates. Like where do yall usually go? Multiple places or just keep to one spot? How long should a date last etc. Also some dos and donts would be appreciated.

I want to approach the 10s only and live life this way.

I want zero hesitation, friction in conversations from my inner self.

Met this girl on hinge Im 21 M and shes 26, and we have been talking since last week I think it began on thursday and since thne we talk daily and mostly surface level stuff and world cup. SO I asked her what other sports she like she said thats pretty much it and asked "hbu?" I said I like the UFC and boxing so I asked her if shes down to watch mcgregor fight this satuday and she said "yeah!!". Im very rusty rn I havent been on a date since Janurary since I got jaw surgery february and this would be my first date back. Should I keep texting her daily because I feel like we are drying up or tell her ill text her closer to saturday? How do yall approach this?

I am fairly new to dating(autistic) and often men call me innocent or kid even though I am in my late 20s. How advice of pursuing would you give and male psychology when it comes to commanding their respect?

I am having a difficult time deciding on whether to go to New York City or Los Angeles to have an easier time finding women to date (and actually be successful without wasting time)

I currently live in Seattle (list of worst cities in the USA for dating as a single man due to higher ratio of males to females). San Francisco I heard is just as bad if not potentially worse. It's the male tech field that is dominating both these metros. In my experience most of the women are taken, and when they are single they have too many options that just makes it a big headache here.

I've heard people joke that NYC is like a playground for the single guy, because there is more women then men there, and it will be much easier than Seattle. Is this true? I am not certain if the playground joke is more of a reference to the early 2000's or not.

I also was thinking about Los Angeles, 2nd largest city in the USA, warm weather year around , plenty of beautiful Latinas (Latinas are my favorite), there is a temptation to go there. The only potential downside to LA is I heard that its a little more competitive than NYC, where the ratio is more even between male/females, however at least its not as bad as Seattle though.

I heard NYC has a large Latina population as well, so maybe that works too.

The advantage of NYC I heard is that its huge, large female to male ratio (more females then men), and very densely populated, ability to approach a huge amount constantly. I also have to factor in weather the women today are still approachable though because again in the early 2000's I heard women were very approachable in NYC, today not so sure.

Worst case scenario should I just give up on the USA altogether and think international? I am not sure if NYC is the best place to game in 2026 or not like it was in the early 2000's, same with Los Angeles.

Help me decide.