u/WokeHarambe

Heres a description of my session with questions for the group at the end.

I (32) have been using toys to try to achieve MMOs/a super O for a few years now with no luck. I HAVE made myself have a traditional orgasm/HFWO from prostate play, but no HFDOs, MMOs, or super Os. I still keep trying because the description of the pleasure that can be unlocked makes me think it’s worth the effort and I have fun in my sessions while trying.

The other day I decided to have a session. Was locked in chastity, hadn’t cum in two weeks, cleaned out, layed down on a folded blanket and a few soft towels, put on some porn, got my poppers ready, and I went to town.

I was ass-gooning hard, straight hammering my ass and prostate with my NJoy wand. Started to reach the point where I thought I might have a HFWO and decided to keep going because I hadn’t cum in two weeks and needed some release.

But instead of a HFWO, some muscle in my ass (near/above the recum, but not a rectal muscle I don’t think) started flexing super hard involuntarily - almost pushing the toy out of me - and then I started pissing myself a little. This was accompanied by fairly nice pleasure (maybe slightly less pleasure than the HFWOs I’ve had in the past from my NJoy wand but still pretty nice). I had plenty of towels under me to soak it all up and so I just gave into it and let it happen. The involuntary muscle flexing was really crazy because it flexed A LOT and felt like it was bulging out, almost filling my entire ass.

After a few seconds the flexing and the peeing subsided and I kept going. Was able to bring myself back to pissgasm about 5 or 6 times in total in this session. Not super into pee, but this was fun and felt good, and I enjoyed the experience overall.

My questions are:

1. does having achieved the pissgasm mean I was close to HFDO/MMOs/the super o?
2. was there something I could have done (or in future, is there can do) to achieve the super O/MMOs once I reach the pissgasm stage?
3. any other general thoughts or advice on this experience or on how to achieve my goal of HFDO/MMOs/Super O?

I’ve been trying for HFDOs/super Os for years. Still haven’t gotten there. I’ve given myself many HFWOs with use of the NJoy wand or from getting fucked (I’m a gay male bottom).

I’ve always heard that vibrating toys are a bad idea because after a long enough session they numb your prostate.

But after years of not achieving my goals with static toys (NJoy wand, multiple aneros designs), I’m wondering if it’s something I should try.

Also has anyone had any luck/success getting a HFWO/super O with using the NJoy wand (or other toys) to get them really close to an HFDO and then stopping movement before the point of no return? Can I rewire successfully by bringing myself close to the brink of an HFWO with vigorous NJoy wand use and then pulling back right before the point of no return?

Really struggling to control base and center separately/independently. When I flex center, my base naturally flexes too. When I flex base, my center naturally flexes as well.

Any tips on how to do these two flexes more cleanly/separately/independently?

Trying to wear my cage more consistently. I modified my cage to make it easier to pee in. Have gotten used to it during the day so I need less/no cage breaks during waking hours. But I still wake up every night with pretty significant discomfort where the base ring meets the bottom of my sack and have to take it off. Anyone got any tips for me?

Hosting a pump and dump event near pokey on Saturday night starting at 9.

Looking for as many breeders as possible.

Event page is on sniffies.

Sorry about the long post, but I want to give lots of context so you all can give me the best advice possible.

Me: 32-year-old submissive bottom chub/bear gay male, usually wearing a chastity cage.  I never naturally pre-cum (seriously NEVER) but can get very slight amounts of precum using an NJOY wand to heavily stimulate the prostate (this will be relevant later in my write-up).  I use the chastity cage primarily to abstain from jerking off so that my prostate is primed and ready for play.
** **
Goal: The magical, mythical Super-O – the one with the leg/body shaking that many guys describe as a full body experience.
** **
Toys I Own: butt plugs, dildos, aneros, including a helix syn, progasm, and knock-offs similar in size and shape to the helix, and a knock-off NJOY wand that is identical to the brand-name NJOY wand.
** **
Past experience(s):  Been playing with my ass for about 10 years – both with real dicks and toys.  Been on the hunt for the Super-O for about five years.  Get fucked frequently.  I’ve had many hands-free orgasms from toys, but they are not super-O style orgasms, just regular orgasms brought on by prostate stimulation.  I love to have the cum fucked out of me by a top (have had this happen many times).  It feels amazing, but still not as amazing as how guys describe their super-O experiences.  I can get pleasure from my prostate (obviously, since I can cum from prostate stimulation), but I don’t think I’ve ever had true “P-waves” but not entirely sure, as the descriptions I’ve read of them vary and are sometimes kind of vague.  My aneros toys seem to do nothing for me, but maybe I’m using them wrong.  I can get some great pleasurable prostate sensations both from getting fucked and from my NJOY wand.  I’ve tried rubbing my nipples to help me get there as I see lots of guys mention this in their write-ups, but it doesn’t really do much for me.  

I ALWAYS wear my chastity cage during prostate sessions so that I don’t end up just jerking off (I’m very dedicated to my training and it’s very likely for me to get frustrated and just beat off if I’m not wearing it).  I almost always do my training lying in bed while on my back with my legs bent and knees pointed outward as this is what is most comfortable for me.

Based on some previous advice I got, recently I’ve been experimenting with a “less is more” approach recently – audio files instead of porn, no poppers, way less heavy thrusting with the njoy wand and more light movements instead.  I haven’t really gotten anywhere with this approach.

Closest I’ve Gotten: The best session I’ve ever had was recently (about a month ago).  I locked up my dick in chastity for about a month, then spent a night on the couch being a goony little fuck, HAMMERING away at my prostate with the NJOY wand with a popperbate video on (the video focused on guys wearing chastity cages getting used by huge dicks) while getting super poppered up.  Lots of great sensations in my prostate and pelvis.  Ended up having a lot of precum (a lot for me anyways, considering I almost never precum) and then had a great orgasm (but again, no leg/full body shaking, the sensation was very localized to my pelvic area/not a super O).  The fluid I shot during this orgasm seemed much more like precum/seminal fluid than regular cum. The fluid was more opaquely clear and less milky/white than my regular cum, not as strong a cum smell and taste as my regular cum).
** **
Outlook: Getting kind of discouraged thinking this may just be a sensation I’m not capable of/maybe my anatomy isn’t right for it.  Part of me thinks that only guys who naturally precum a lot can experience this.  I could really use both some encouragement and advice.
** **
Questions: Any questions you have for me to help you offer guidance/advice.  I’m happy to answer any questions you have. I’m a total open book and just want help breaking through.  Any general advice or tips to help me break through to the super-O?  Am I on the right track?  Can someone describe P-waves to me in a clear way?  Anything I’m doing or not doing that clearly needs correction?

Sorry about the long post, but I want to give lots of context so you all can give me the best advice possible.

Me: 32-year-old submissive bottom chub/bear gay male, usually wearing a chastity cage.  I never naturally pre-cum (seriously NEVER) but can get very slight amounts of precum using an NJOY wand to heavily stimulate the prostate (this will be relevant later in my write-up).  I use the chastity cage primarily to abstain from jerking off so that my prostate is primed and ready for play.
** **
Goal: The magical, mythical Super-O – the one with the leg/body shaking that many guys describe as a full body experience.
** **
Toys I Own: butt plugs, dildos, aneros, including a helix syn, progasm, and knock-offs similar in size and shape to the helix, and a knock-off NJOY wand that is identical to the brand-name NJOY wand.
** **
Past experience(s):  Been playing with my ass for about 10 years – both with real dicks and toys.  Been on the hunt for the Super-O for about five years.  Get fucked frequently.  I’ve had many hands-free orgasms from toys, but they are not super-O style orgasms, just regular orgasms brought on by prostate stimulation.  I love to have the cum fucked out of me by a top (have had this happen many times).  It feels amazing, but still not as amazing as how guys describe their super-O experiences.  I can get pleasure from my prostate (obviously, since I can cum from prostate stimulation), but I don’t think I’ve ever had true “P-waves” but not entirely sure, as the descriptions I’ve read of them vary and are sometimes kind of vague.  My aneros toys seem to do nothing for me, but maybe I’m using them wrong.  I can get some great pleasurable prostate sensations both from getting fucked and from my NJOY wand.  I’ve tried rubbing my nipples to help me get there as I see lots of guys mention this in their write-ups, but it doesn’t really do much for me.  

I ALWAYS wear my chastity cage during prostate sessions so that I don’t end up just jerking off (I’m very dedicated to my training and it’s very likely for me to get frustrated and just beat off if I’m not wearing it).  I almost always do my training lying in bed while on my back with my legs bent and knees pointed outward as this is what is most comfortable for me.

Based on some previous advice I got, recently I’ve been experimenting with a “less is more” approach recently – audio files instead of porn, no poppers, way less heavy thrusting with the njoy wand and more light movements instead.  I haven’t really gotten anywhere with this approach.

Closest I’ve Gotten: The best session I’ve ever had was recently (about a month ago).  I locked up my dick in chastity for about a month, then spent a night on the couch being a goony little fuck, HAMMERING away at my prostate with the NJOY wand with a popperbate video on (the video focused on guys wearing chastity cages getting used by huge dicks) while getting super poppered up.  Lots of great sensations in my prostate and pelvis.  Ended up having a lot of precum (a lot for me anyways, considering I almost never precum) and then had a great orgasm (but again, no leg/full body shaking, the sensation was very localized to my pelvic area/not a super O).  The fluid I shot during this orgasm seemed much more like precum/seminal fluid than regular cum. The fluid was more opaquely clear and less milky/white than my regular cum, not as strong a cum smell and taste as my regular cum).
** **
Outlook: Getting kind of discouraged thinking this may just be a sensation I’m not capable of/maybe my anatomy isn’t right for it.  Part of me thinks that only guys who naturally precum a lot can experience this.  I could really use both some encouragement and advice.
** **
Questions: Any questions you have for me to help you offer guidance/advice.  I’m happy to answer any questions you have. I’m a total open book and just want help breaking through.  Any general advice or tips to help me break through to the super-O?  Am I on the right track?  Can someone describe P-waves to me in a clear way?  Anything I’m doing or not doing that clearly needs correction?

Sorry about the long post, but I want to give lots of context so you all can give me the best advice possible.

Me: 32-year-old submissive bottom chub/bear gay male, usually wearing a chastity cage.  I never naturally pre-cum (seriously NEVER) but can get very slight amounts of precum using an NJOY wand to heavily stimulate the prostate (this will be relevant later in my write-up).  I use the chastity cage primarily to abstain from jerking off so that my prostate is primed and ready for play.
** **
Goal: The magical, mythical Super-O – the one with the leg/body shaking that many guys describe as a full body experience.
** **
Toys I Own: butt plugs, dildos, aneros, including a helix syn, progasm, and knock-offs similar in size and shape to the helix, and a knock-off NJOY wand that is identical to the brand-name NJOY wand.
** **
Past experience(s):  Been playing with my ass for about 10 years – both with real dicks and toys.  Been on the hunt for the Super-O for about five years.  Get fucked frequently.  I’ve had many hands-free orgasms from toys, but they are not super-O style orgasms, just regular orgasms brought on by prostate stimulation.  I love to have the cum fucked out of me by a top (have had this happen many times).  It feels amazing, but still not as amazing as how guys describe their super-O experiences.  I can get pleasure from my prostate (obviously, since I can cum from prostate stimulation), but I don’t think I’ve ever had true “P-waves” but not entirely sure, as the descriptions I’ve read of them vary and are sometimes kind of vague.  My aneros toys seem to do nothing for me, but maybe I’m using them wrong.  I can get some great pleasurable prostate sensations both from getting fucked and from my NJOY wand.  I’ve tried rubbing my nipples to help me get there as I see lots of guys mention this in their write-ups, but it doesn’t really do much for me.  

I ALWAYS wear my chastity cage during prostate sessions so that I don’t end up just jerking off (I’m very dedicated to my training and it’s very likely for me to get frustrated and just beat off if I’m not wearing it).  I almost always do my training lying in bed while on my back with my legs bent and knees pointed outward as this is what is most comfortable for me.

Based on some previous advice I got, recently I’ve been experimenting with a “less is more” approach recently – audio files instead of porn, no poppers, way less heavy thrusting with the njoy wand and more light movements instead.  I haven’t really gotten anywhere with this approach.

Closest I’ve Gotten: The best session I’ve ever had was recently (about a month ago).  I locked up my dick in chastity for about a month, then spent a night on the couch being a goony little fuck, HAMMERING away at my prostate with the NJOY wand with a popperbate video on (the video focused on guys wearing chastity cages getting used by huge dicks) while getting super poppered up.  Lots of great sensations in my prostate and pelvis.  Ended up having a lot of precum (a lot for me anyways, considering I almost never precum) and then had a great orgasm (but again, no leg/full body shaking, the sensation was very localized to my pelvic area/not a super O).  The fluid I shot during this orgasm seemed much more like precum/seminal fluid than regular cum. The fluid was more opaquely clear and less milky/white than my regular cum, not as strong a cum smell and taste as my regular cum).
** **
Outlook: Getting kind of discouraged thinking this may just be a sensation I’m not capable of/maybe my anatomy isn’t right for it.  Part of me thinks that only guys who naturally precum a lot can experience this.  I could really use both some encouragement and advice.
** **
Questions: Any questions you have for me to help you offer guidance/advice.  I’m happy to answer any questions you have. I’m a total open book and just want help breaking through.  Any general advice or tips to help me break through to the super-O?  Am I on the right track?  Can someone describe P-waves to me in a clear way?  Anything I’m doing or not doing that clearly needs correction?

Sorry about the long post, but I want to give lots of context so you all can give me the best advice possible.

Me: 32-year-old submissive bottom chub/bear gay male, usually wearing a chastity cage.  I never naturally pre-cum (seriously NEVER) but can get very slight amounts of precum using an NJOY wand to heavily stimulate the prostate (this will be relevant later in my write-up).  I use the chastity cage primarily to abstain from jerking off so that my prostate is primed and ready for play.
** **
Goal: The magical, mythical Super-O – the one with the leg/body shaking that many guys describe as a full body experience.
** **
Toys I Own: butt plugs, dildos, aneros, including a helix syn, progasm, and knock-offs similar in size and shape to the helix, and a knock-off NJOY wand that is identical to the brand-name NJOY wand.
** **
Past experience(s):  Been playing with my ass for about 10 years – both with real dicks and toys.  Been on the hunt for the Super-O for about five years.  Get fucked frequently.  I’ve had many hands-free orgasms from toys, but they are not super-O style orgasms, just regular orgasms brought on by prostate stimulation.  I love to have the cum fucked out of me by a top (have had this happen many times).  It feels amazing, but still not as amazing as how guys describe their super-O experiences.  I can get pleasure from my prostate (obviously, since I can cum from prostate stimulation), but I don’t think I’ve ever had true “P-waves” but not entirely sure, as the descriptions I’ve read of them vary and are sometimes kind of vague.  My aneros toys seem to do nothing for me, but maybe I’m using them wrong.  I can get some great pleasurable prostate sensations both from getting fucked and from my NJOY wand.  I’ve tried rubbing my nipples to help me get there as I see lots of guys mention this in their write-ups, but it doesn’t really do much for me.  

I ALWAYS wear my chastity cage during prostate sessions so that I don’t end up just jerking off (I’m very dedicated to my training and it’s very likely for me to get frustrated and just beat off if I’m not wearing it).  I almost always do my training lying in bed while on my back with my legs bent and knees pointed outward as this is what is most comfortable for me.

Based on some previous advice I got, recently I’ve been experimenting with a “less is more” approach recently – audio files instead of porn, no poppers, way less heavy thrusting with the njoy wand and more light movements instead.  I haven’t really gotten anywhere with this approach.

Closest I’ve Gotten: The best session I’ve ever had was recently (about a month ago).  I locked up my dick in chastity for about a month, then spent a night on the couch being a goony little fuck, HAMMERING away at my prostate with the NJOY wand with a popperbate video on (the video focused on guys wearing chastity cages getting used by huge dicks) while getting super poppered up.  Lots of great sensations in my prostate and pelvis.  Ended up having a lot of precum (a lot for me anyways, considering I almost never precum) and then had a great orgasm (but again, no leg/full body shaking, the sensation was very localized to my pelvic area/not a super O).  The fluid I shot during this orgasm seemed much more like precum/seminal fluid than regular cum. The fluid was more opaquely clear and less milky/white than my regular cum, not as strong a cum smell and taste as my regular cum).
** **
Outlook: Getting kind of discouraged thinking this may just be a sensation I’m not capable of/maybe my anatomy isn’t right for it.  Part of me thinks that only guys who naturally precum a lot can experience this.  I could really use both some encouragement and advice.
** **
Questions: Any questions you have for me to help you offer guidance/advice.  I’m happy to answer any questions you have. I’m a total open book and just want help breaking through.  Any general advice or tips to help me break through to the super-O?  Am I on the right track?  Can someone describe P-waves to me in a clear way?  Anything I’m doing or not doing that clearly needs correction?

Sorry about the long post, but I want to give lots of context so you all can give me the best advice possible.

Me: 32-year-old submissive bottom chub/bear gay male, usually wearing a chastity cage.  I never naturally pre-cum (seriously NEVER) but can get very slight amounts of precum using an NJOY wand to heavily stimulate the prostate (this will be relevant later in my write-up).  I use the chastity cage primarily to abstain from jerking off so that my prostate is primed and ready for play.
 
Goal: The magical, mythical Super-O – the one with the leg/body shaking that many guys describe as a full body experience.
 
Toys I Own: butt plugs, dildos, aneros, including a helix syn, progasm, and knock-offs similar in size and shape to the helix, and a knock-off NJOY wand that is identical to the brand-name NJOY wand.
 
Past experience(s):  Been playing with my ass for about 10 years – both with real dicks and toys.  Been on the hunt for the Super-O for about five years.  Get fucked frequently.  I’ve had many hands-free orgasms from toys, but they are not super-O style orgasms, just regular orgasms brought on by prostate stimulation.  I love to have the cum fucked out of me by a top (have had this happen many times).  It feels amazing, but still not as amazing as how guys describe their super-O experiences.  I can get pleasure from my prostate (obviously, since I can cum from prostate stimulation), but I don’t think I’ve ever had true “P-waves” but not entirely sure, as the descriptions I’ve read of them vary and are sometimes kind of vague.  My aneros toys seem to do nothing for me, but maybe I’m using them wrong.  I can get some great pleasurable prostate sensations both from getting fucked and from my NJOY wand.  I’ve tried rubbing my nipples to help me get there as I see lots of guys mention this in their write-ups, but it doesn’t really do much for me.  

I ALWAYS wear my chastity cage during prostate sessions so that I don’t end up just jerking off (I’m very dedicated to my training and it’s very likely for me to get frustrated and just beat off if I’m not wearing it).  I almost always do my training lying in bed while on my back with my legs bent and knees pointed outward as this is what is most comfortable for me.

Based on some previous advice I got, recently I’ve been experimenting with a “less is more” approach recently – audio files instead of porn, no poppers, way less heavy thrusting with the njoy wand and more light movements instead.  I haven’t really gotten anywhere with this approach.

Closest I’ve Gotten: The best session I’ve ever had was recently (about a month ago).  I locked up my dick in chastity for about a month, then spent a night on the couch being a goony little fuck, HAMMERING away at my prostate with the NJOY wand with a popperbate video on (the video focused on guys wearing chastity cages getting used by huge dicks) while getting super poppered up.  Lots of great sensations in my prostate and pelvis.  Ended up having a lot of precum (a lot for me anyways, considering I almost never precum) and then had a great orgasm (but again, no leg/full body shaking, the sensation was very localized to my pelvic area/not a super O).  The fluid I shot during this orgasm seemed much more like precum/seminal fluid than regular cum. The fluid was more opaquely clear and less milky/white than my regular cum, not as strong a cum smell and taste as my regular cum).
 
Outlook: Getting kind of discouraged thinking this may just be a sensation I’m not capable of/maybe my anatomy isn’t right for it.  Part of me thinks that only guys who naturally precum a lot can experience this.  I could really use both some encouragement and advice.
 
Questions: Any questions you have for me to help you offer guidance/advice.  I’m happy to answer any questions you have. I’m a total open book and just want help breaking through.  Any general advice or tips to help me break through to the super-O?  Am I on the right track?  Can someone describe P-waves to me in a clear way?  Anything I’m doing or not doing that clearly needs correction?

I used a dremel tool to bore out and expand the hole in the front of the cage so I can pee cleanly and easily without making any kind of mess (or having to take the cage off to pee).

It looks a little beat up, but I assure you everything is smooth and comfortable. Pics can be seen in the post at the link: https://www.reddit.com/r/kink3d/s/QKhU3wCPb5

Anybody else done this or seen other guys do this?

I feel so awesome right now! Like I discovered the secret that will finally allow me to stay caged long term. Now I need only take the cage off for showering (and cleaning the cage which I do in the shower).

I had to use a few different dremel accessories - one really high grit stone to bore out the hole, and a few to sand down the edges for smoothness and comfort. Took about an hour. It has to be done carefully to ensure you don’t end up with jagged, sharp edges that will hurt when you get hard and strain inside the cage.

Why doesn’t Kink3D just make the cages with a bigger pee hole? They should hire me to help them with product design! Hahaha 🤣

Can’t host. Lookin go for hosting top. Love to bottom. Like to were a chastity cage but can take it off if not your thing. Regularly tested and negative for all STIs hit me up.